I expect Karl to start blaming Obama for the collapse in the stockmarket soon. That and the GOP talking heads will all start spouting Conventional Wisdom about not raising taxes during a Depression.
Never mind that is what FDR did.
Roosevelt did not raise income taxes before World War II began; however payroll taxes were also introduced to fund the new Social Security program in 1937. He also got Congress to spend more on many various programs and projects never before seen in American history. However, under the revenue pressures brought on by the depression, most states added or increased taxes, including sales as well as income taxes. Roosevelt’s proposal for new taxes on corporate savings were highly controversial in 1936–37, and were rejected by Congress. During the war he pushed for even higher income tax rates for individuals (reaching a marginal tax rate of 91%) and corporations and a cap on high salaries for executives. In order to fund the war, Congress broadened the base so that almost every employee paid federal income taxes, and introduced withholding taxes in 1943.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
The GOP will also say that we cannot afford new social programs like universal healthcare never mind that FDR gave us Social Security and the WPA work programs by running up deficits at first. But the GOP will curiously have no problem getting the votes for more money for big business
Deficit spending had been recommended by some economists, most notably by John Maynard Keynes of Britain. Some economists in retrospect have argued that the National Labor Relations Act and Agricultural Adjustment Administration were ineffective policies because they relied on price fixing.[54] The GNP was 34% higher in 1936 than in 1932 and 58% higher in 1940 on the eve of war. That is, the economy grew 58% from 1932 to 1940 in 8 years of peacetime, and then grew 56% from 1940 to 1945 in 5 years of wartime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
My bold 58% growth in 8 years 58/8=7.25% growth a year during peacetime after an economic collapse not bad.
We tried things Hoover’s/ Bush’s way for 8 years Obama needs to try the FDR way. He needs to sell his economic policy by saying this is what FDR did after Hoover gave us the Great Depression after another period of Republican Economics.
I also expect the GOP to scream that regulation on business will cost jobs. Our reply should be sure poison cat food makers in China will all be unemployed if Obama gets the FDA working again.
Moving from a regulated economy to a less regulated economy produces cost savings as people cut corners. Looser strings on borrowing provides cash for new ideas and cheap credit means that more people can buy.
The problem is that like any drinking binge you crash sooner or later.
The GOP like an Alky though never remembers the hangover they remember the Buzz.
Early success breeds confidence that you are infallible and that the market will keep going up, every bubble is about ready to burst when the regular players start believing their own sales pitch/scam. Like Greenspan did when he talked about new market efficiencies making the market safe from the old rules about over priced stocks.
When other people not insiders enter a market they don’t understand with big money and start believing a con job based on past success then the bubble might have only a few years left.
A big enough bubble worldwide can leave no safe place for your cash.
An example of the problems of deregulated markets can be found right at my house. I strongly suspect that my Condo’s electrical wiring was not done by Union contractors because the fire alarm has gone off like 12 times this year but no fire.
That is one of the prices you pay buying stuff in a deregulated housing market in a bubble. Time is money and short term expense is disregarded. Junkies always focus on the now and disregard the future.
However if my Condo board has its way the Contractor will pay to fix it and pay for every false fire alarm the Fire Dept has had to respond to. The Fire Dept charges for every call.
So like smoking the costs get passed off to the future but with time the costs grow as the fire Dept bill grows.
Then like an addict the Contractors blame someone else for his mistakes/problems the Lawyers we Consumers have to use to get them to pay for stuff that should have been fixed right in the first place.
I think that it is useful to think of making tons of cash like an addiction the Cash Addicts forget the pain and live for the buzz of making more money but in order to do this their scams must get more complex and end up all being Ponzi schemes.
They are in denial that they have a problem certain society groups seem prone to group addictions like this.
Tulip Mania in Holland is a good example.





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Arrgh I hope this link works sorry.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
nice points tcu
Investing in our infrastructure does not cost us a dime, it creates wealth, it creates surplus in government and in assets
Ivestments in infrastructure bring positive return and here is why;
Money is produced for a cost, this is known as the prime, for every dollar we print we owe more then that dollar
Bizarre but true
We therefore must grow the economy to be able to pay down that debt, money must be printed.
However if we simply print money without a return, (for instance paulson’s plan to just give it to criminals), then all you are really going to do is deposit that money in the pockets of people who already have it, you wind up getting nothing for your money.
On the other hand, if we get something for that money we print then the future can build on those assets without spending individual money.
The roads, tunnels and bridges gave us positive return for all the money printed and now we reap the rewards.
However the infrastructure must be maintained, it has been neglected too long, that is one program we must begin.
we must also renew research into alternative fuels, this will also give us a return for the investment
And of course the industry of cooling the planet will save us much more then it costs.
These programs and others cannot be ignored when we have an economic crisis, they must be reinforced
Good stuff. Thanks for the research.
wrt to the text and pargraph spacing, the first draft in Oxdown shows paragraph breaks and spaces, but when you edit the second time and save, they can disappear. The trick I use is to do a double return at the end of each paragraph when you’re near final, then publish. Then you can immediately come back to edit further, add links, etc, and the paragraph spaces should hold with each new save. It’s a nuisance.
Thanks for the tip I’ll try and remember for next time this post was strung together from lots of comments at Late Late Night so I knew it would be choppy anyway.
But I wanted to get the ideas down whlie everything was still fresh in my head.