Someone in the comments pointed out that the survey item on the “Tina Fey effect” [sic] included ‘none’ as a response choice. Ziegler had said there was no true answer for that item.

Ziegler had contacted me by e-mail, asking if I’d like to interview him; the interview itself was conducted by telephone. Ziegler asked, among other conditions, that I post a full transcript of the interview, which I have.