I understand Democrats have concluded they have to do something to bail out Wall Street before Wall Street’s impending crash freezes credit and devastates Main Street. They have to do something and hope it works.
But given the compromises they accepted from Republicans and Secretary Paulson (or imposed on themselves — e.g., giving up on bankruptcy protection), there’s no excuse for cheering for this pig of a bailout or making claims that aren’t justified.
Speaker Pelosi has released a summary of the bailout package, and you can view it here. Several components are improvements over the original Paulson plan.
But since many economists view the changes as half remedies at best, or at worst unworkable fixes focused on the wrong problem, it’s troubling to see Pelosi exaggerating the merits and the limited protection it provides.
For example, after initially stating that "[i]f the government loses money, the financial industry will pay back the taxpayers," Pelosi lists the following "Protection for taxpayers, ensuring THEY share IN ANY profits":
# Cuts the payment of $700 billion in half and conditions future payments on Congressional review
# Gives taxpayers an ownership stake and profit-making opportunities with participating companies
# Puts taxpayers first in line to recover assets if participating company fails
# Guarantees taxpayers are repaid in full — if other protections have not actually produced a profit
# Allows the government to purchase troubled assets from pension plans, local governments, and small banks that serve low- and middle-income families
As Ian Welsh explained this morning, based on the New York Times initial description, several of these claims are, misleading:
First, while the initial outlay can be up to $350 billion, Congress would have to affirmatively pass legislation — and possibly override a Presidential veto — to stop the Treasury from utilitizing the entire $700 billion.
Second, it’s not clear how much of an ownership stake Government would get, because Treasury can choose to acquire toxic assets without taking an equity stake. Given Paulson’s preference for these other non-equity mechanisms, taxpayers could get little or no equity.
Third, unless the NYT article is wrong, it’s false to claim the proposal "guarantees taxpayers are repaid in full." The ability to recover losses after the fact is something the next President would have to get Congress’ approval to implement; the package includes only the idea of letting the President ask for this, a power he would have had in any event.
Indeed, on CNN this morning, Barney Frank complained that Republicans successfully opposed a Democratic proposal to impose a fee on Wall Street transactions to recover program losses if they persist after five years. While arguing for Wall Street insurance for all transactions — exposing Treasury to enormous risks later — Republicans refused to hold Wall Street accountable for losses in the meantime.
In other words, there’s no guarantee of any protection to taxpayers other than we’ve passed the buck — the current President and Congress do not have to take responsibility for paying for this mess, and neither does Wall Street.
If the Democratic leadership has concluded they have to gather support for an imperfect bailout because they think doing nothing is worse, let them say that. But there’s no excuse for misleading the American people while making them accept this mess.





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Sounds like something a Democratic congress can pass in 2009.
Seems to be no surprise here. Digby, as usual comes up with some good stuff. As I said in Pach’s diary, any deal that has Rahmbo negotiating for the dems is intended to screw us.
Fearmongering. Where’s FDR when you need him?
Rahm appears to have inserted himself as the messenger between the negotiators and Pelosi. It’s not clear he was actually doing anything other than carrying messages. Would you trust $70 bn to Rahm?
The fact that Rahm has been a lying, double-dealing, slime-weasel for his entire life just mean’s he’s overdue for a display of integrity. It could happen any minute (day, week, month, year, decade) now.
I wouldn’t trust Rahm with my lunch money, let alone the national savings.
not going to hold my breath.
I sure as hell hope there’s someone being groomed to primary his ass in 10.
Lets stop this Monday
UPDATE: Pelosi’s office has released a revised summary statement that it slightly different from the one I quoted in the post. she’s scaled back on some of the claims.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=1529
And her http://speaker.house.gov/ has been out of commission for several hours.
Apropos here is what Joe Biden said about Bush’s speech to the Knesset:
“This is bullshit. This is malarky.”
According to Krugman there are still “significant changes” to come to the current draft text before it goes to the House floor.
Wondering how the freshman class of 2006 is going to deal with this. Somehow I don’t think supporting it will be very popular.
This is more teeth than was apparent before…
I don’t pretend to understand economics – but I know a little law.
Probably explains why the point I’m so livid about is the D’s caving to Repub refusal to let bankruptcy judges step in to help single-dwelling citizens.
I wish but I’m confident the Emanuel Political Crime Syndicate has enough power here in Illinois to put the kibosh on any attempt.
krugman’s post was at 4:39pm – is the bill he was looking at the same one that has been posted at the openhouse project?
http://www.theopenhouseproject…..lout-bill/
as the 110th congress has taught us, oversight is not the same thing as accountability.
and the transparency we need is to know what is on the books of the affected corporations – not just the purchased that paulson makes.
but i’m willing to be convinced if you can quote me the relevant text from the bill.
David Sirota has an overly long but exceptional discussion of Top Five Reasons to Vote Against This Bill
Excerpt:
Have a nice day,
Signed
Your Elected Officials.
Now get back to work you slackers, we have private jets to fuel and shiny baubles to hoard!
Waiter?! Where’s my Lobster?
What we’re gonna get is a 300 page bill to hide the original 3 1/2 pager that Paulson originally submitted. Treasury is going to get the $700B, Paulson is gonna be in complete control and we, as usual, are gonna get screwed.
oversight is not the same thing as accountability.
or we, the government will watch while you screw the citizens. The government likes to watch. No action.
They ought to be
dumping the whole thing and starting over with a citizen-oriented agendaat least dumping stuff like this:“Statement 157″ is the so-called mark-to-market accounting rule, which is pretty well described at Wikipedia. Here’s the nub:
Section 132 would make it easier, and furthermore legal, for a bank with the collusion of the Treasury Department to hide its possibly very large insolvency.
In a parliamentary system, Bush would have been out years ago, under a vote of no confidence. Instead, we have him and his friends selling us out once again. I am sorry, but I can’t trust anything put forth by that ASSHOLE!
This is inexcusable. She should resign if she can’t correctly characterize the bill she and her leadership team have been working on for ten days. A lot rides on her getting this right.
She should resign as speaker. It’s absurd that she can’t describe the bill right and makes claims that she needs to back-pedal on. Really insulting.
It could be interesting to see how this plays out. If a substantial number of reps from either party balk, the other is likely to do the same, since nobody wants to get stuck with all the blame. It is still questionable whether the party (so-called) leaders have enough authority to force the herd to jump through this flaming hoop, especially with many up for reelection.
Kucinich says leadership may not have the votes.
So what kind of hand wringing or catastrophes will follow if they can’t wrestle enough votes to pass this mess?
that is my understanding after all the congressional committee hearings i’ve listened to.
congress will have hearings after the fact. sometimes they will uncover important information, but usually not. even if they find lawbreaking, they will do nothing – other than occasionally write a sternly worded letter.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are looking out for your interests, though. Isn’t that comforting?
(PSSST),
Rumor has it that there is going to be a HUGE run on KY jelly first thing in the morning.
Reportedly enough to fuck over 300 million people at once!
Spread the word….,.
By the way, note the anodyne language of the official “Section-by-section Analysis of the Legislation” on section 132:
As if a simple rewording were accomplished.
(PDF of the Section-by-section)
Firepups with usually unreachable GOP representatives should be expressing their views clearly tonight. They may find a receptive audience to a message of HELL NO.
So what kind of hand wringing or catastrophes will follow if they can’t wrestle enough votes to pass this mess?
market goes down by about 750?
“Pump up the volume…”
You should see the comments over at CR on mark-to-market suspension and the zero reserves…it’s like Mad Max meets John Kenneth Galbraith!
Krugman references the CBS MarketWatch version that I linked to (along with the version you give) in the next post here. If there are differences, except for some slight formatting changes, they’re not apparent.
It’s the end of the corporate quarter on Tuesday. Lots of things happen that require huge amounts of rolled-over credit. The system may grind to a halt.
Snakes on a plane, in other words.
other than occasionally write a sternly worded letter.
I write a great sternly-worded letter.
You suppose that I could work for Waxman, Leahy, or Conyers?
Once again, as on FISA-fix II, the Democrats are accepting vague assurances of good intentions, i.e., pie-in-the-sky and trust-me bullshit, instead of writing some teeth into the bill, e.g., specific recourse to sieze assets of Wall Street corporations if the public hasn’t gotten its money back within five years.
It looks to me like the Treasury is required to get warrants whenever they purchase troubled assets. This is the text of the version on the NYT a few minutes ago.
The standards for the action of the Secretary include protection of the interests of taxpayers, including making sure that we get our money back. Given the strong oversight, I doubt even this bunch of cheats would dare making a purchase without getting a warrant.
Krugman seems to think we only have to get the warrant if there is a direct purhase, but it doesn’t read like that to me.
That appears to be what they’re relying on. Late night Sunday rollouts, hurryup Monday votes, it’s just an outrage that they think they can do these things and then come before us as if they were our representatives.
the report on kucinich’s statement was from this afternoon – i think before the bill was posted.
however, i’ve been watching the house rules committee website and while they had an emergency meeting at 8pm this evening, the bailout bill was not on the agenda. this makes me think that kucinich may be correct.
also, as of a little after 4pm when i called the house rules committee (staff was in and answering the phone), they had no idea what the timing was going to be.
Heh, just came from there. Actually I should hat-tip the commenter in CR’s “Draft: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008″ thread who found Secs 128 and 132; apparently someone wise enough to know that these big bills should be read from the end, or from some random point in the middle, or something.
Sirota:
Sounds like Grover’s Mission Accomplished moment to me.
and perhaps Rahmbo’s and Nancy’s and Harry’s too.
Thanks for the suggestion. This is from a 9/25 statement by my Republican congress-weasel Tim Johnson. Sounds as if he might be receptive. What do you think is the most effective means of contact, phone or e-mail?
Yeah, me too.
Glad to see I’m not the only one thinking on these lines.
Since it’s relevant, I’ll repeat one little extra bit I’d add to what you said: end of quarter also means it’s the day banks calculate their capital ratios, which they must maintain at a certain level as reserves against deposits. So Companies-trying-to-find-large-institutional-buyers-for-a-rollover Day will also be Banks-hoarding-every-penny-to-make-their-reserve-ratios Day.
Crunch.
Auction off a few FEMA trailers and we are talking serious money.
Bastards.
Thanks scarecrow.
digg
Write to my representative (R), and Senators (D).
No. Hell No. Let them fail. We’ll endure.
of course there is an excuse – it is Democrats who are pushing this bill through, and Democrats must be supported, no matter what!
Easy! Anything else is Ralph Nader wearing a tinfoil hat!
Do you think LOTS OF CAPITALS and exclamations!!!!11! would make a difference? Many of these ‘weasels must get emails and faxes like those; perhaps there’s an intern assigned to count the exclamation points?
I just keep writing emails to Nancy Pelosi with excerpts from Sirota. Doubt it’ll do any good, but I have to keep trying. Phone calls early tomorrow, I suppose.
NO BAILOUT FOR BILLIONAIRES would get my attention!
IIRC Johnson was the only GOP rep to vote against the FISA expansion and telecom immunity.
I grew up in Shampoo-Banana…Tim Johnson and I had the same favorite restaurant haunt–the Courier Cafe–when he was just the state rep. He was insufferable then, I’d occasionally see him there and want to smack him in the face. Usually I managed not to.
But seems he’s mellowed since getting to Congress?
“as the Secretary determines appropriate;” ;should tell you all you need to know. A ‘warrant’ is nothing but an option to purchase stock; the questions come up ‘at what price and a what premium’. In the ‘real’ world, most options -puts and calls- expire worthless and the premium goes into the pockets of the market makers. Also, such ‘warrants’ are traded on the stock exchanges with a ‘w’ after their symbols; who will be able to buy such?
I recall that this is why previous crashes have happened near this time of year. What is it, do you suppose, about the third quarter (or first, fiscally) that’s so tough for them to get past?
That two and a half page piece of toilet paper that Paulson submitted to Congress doesn’t deserve to be dignified by calling it a plan. Sweet Jesus, if an architect told you I need seven million dollars from you to buy drafting equipment would you say he had blueprints of your project? I have submitted grant proposals for $500 that were three times as long and in every way substantially more forthcoming. And this from a master of the universe who has had at least 18 months to develop contingency plans. That alone makes me extraordinarily suspicious that something else, something ulimately that will come to no good, is afoot. Those two and a half pages were just bizarre.
Health care has enough in insurance premiums to fund it without government help. And the savings should fund alternative energy.
Cut $10 Billion/year from Iraq and we’ll have some real money to spent.
Cut defense spending by 50%, social security taxes with no cap, repeal the Bush tax cuts, and we’ll have a budget surplus.
“Pelosi: Votes depend on us
Although House Democrats won’t provide unanimous support for the financial rescue bill, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says a Sunday evening meeting with her caucus went well.
Pelosi said Democratic leaders have been doing everything they can to meet members’ concerns about the bill. “The number of votes that it gets will reflect how well we’ve done that,” she said.
Next on Pelosi’s agenda: a meeting with Blue Dog Democrats Sunday night.”
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/
This makes it sound positively merry on Capitol Hill:
oooh! i think i am an oxdown virgin. hi scarecrow! pelosi drives me bonkers
Centrist Democrats like Pelosi and Reid have bet that preventing the collapse of the DOW til election day will facilitate their incumbency racket.
The government buys up a troubled mortgage, then what?
* They can renegotiate it with the current owner absorbing the loss that the mortgage holder would otherwise take, but getting warrants for it.
* They can foreclose, and put the house on the market, further depressing the already depressed market.
* They can foreclose, and keep it off the market by renting it, delaying their loss until they sell it in a stabilized but much lower market a few years hence.
Two of those actions might be helpful to the economy.
coincidence?
Again as has been stated before, this is NOT a liquidity crisis but one of solvency and fraud.
This is so funny. For two years Nancy has been bamboozled by neo-cons, on almost every vote. Now she is depending on them. If she does not get their support I am sure she will still give away the Treasury to GoldmanSachs.
I didn’t realize he’d voted against FISA, guess I should have been paying attention. Apparently he occasionally does the right thing, although I’m not inclined to give him too much credit without knowing his actual motives. Unfortunately, in 2006 he beat a really progressive candidate, Democrat David Gill, M.D with a 61 to 39 percent margin.
Republicans are loathe to vote in favor of the bill because they are intent on running away from Dubya as fast as they can. This bill ties their rotten asses to Dubya. They know this and they fear it.
So the federal government, instead of the evil banks, will evict people from their homes or, better case, take their homes from them and rent them back? This sounds like serfdom.
There are NO “executive pay caps”-meaning salaries(except as determined by what Paulson thinks is ‘reasonable’). So much for Feinstein’s “$400K a year and if they don’t like,set them in a boat, send it to sea, and set it on fire.”
Democrats are idiots to support this if the GOP won’t. Watch McCain and the GOP ‘critters and wannabe ‘critters run against “the Bush/Democrat” plan. It’ll happen.
This must past with huge support of both parties, or not at all.
Hi TexBetsy, good to see you!
Actually, well over 100 House Republican’s are in ‘SAFE’ seats and don’t have to worry about re-election, Bush or not.
If the republicans take this gamble, oh, well!
how are you this evening?
Gee,
that wouldn’t piss me off or anything.
Republicans are loathe to vote in favor of the bill because they are intent on running away from Dubya as fast as they can. This bill ties their rotten asses to Dubya. They know this and they fear it.
Ironic, isn’t it?
If you are in Northern California, writing, calling, emailing and faxing Nancy Pelosi -No Bail-outs for Billionaires being a fine tagline – make sure to emphasize that the $700 billion being channeled to Wall Street crooks is not nearly enough to make you consider voting for rival candidate Cindy Sheehan.
Despite her popularity at FDL a few years ago, the Party Line has now shifted, and the less said about her, the better.
Most Democrats are pretty safe voting for this pig (after all they’re only trying to salvage the country’s economy /s). Republicans are in danger because it ties them to the (recently) admitted failure that is Dubya.
Any hope for getting together a major “Act Blue — Strange Bedfellows” campaign again against Hoyer. Now is the time to get rid of his sorry ass and just maybe the events of the past 10 days mixed in with FISA, Iraq war funding and all the other examples of poor leadership may now sink in with those good people in Southern Maryland.
Since the majority of reps from both parties go out of their way to avoid responsibility for anything, they must really be steamed at having to take a position on something as monumental as this during an election season.
Okely-dokely, resting up so I’ll have enough energy to go to bed.
Exactly. There is no market in these particuar “non-voting” warrants, so there is no way to determine what they are worth, and every likelihood that the public will get screwed.
nice pig, btw
you sexist
hah! i carry a blackjack instead of a blackberry. i’d be safe, right?
But they presumably have to worry about Club for Growth primary challengers in 2010. Those assholes never sleep.
resting up so I’ll have enough energy to go to bed.
Don’t forget to get up early enough to take a good nap…
I am disappointed that these protections are mostly window dressing. The only good thing about it is that they have slowed the bailout expenditures substantially. With luck the purchsase of bad securities will provide enough liquidity to prevent Paulson from stealing more than $250 billion, and we might get a good bill in the new administration.
The election will determine everything. If McCain wins, get ready for a real mess. If Obama wins there may be some hope.
The worst case scenario is that the Paulson plan doesn’t do anything at all to fix the problems. That is a possibility since both Paulson’s and Bernanke’s measures have been ineffective, and some recent ones counterproductive (like wiping out bondholders in Washington Mutual deal). And neither can explain clearly at all how it will work.
I’m not that easy to decapitate.
The other thing that bothers me is that these dillholes working for 9 days in climate controlled offices with well catered meals are griping about how hard it has been and how much work they have done.
Enough already.
-G
How can you tell from that end of the pig? Granted, it’s a bold fashion statement but I think the pig carries it off rather well.
Take a page out of Hank Aarons playbook, swing for the fences.
It’s not like Hot Hank has been right about anything yet, or like he hasn’t been caught self-dealing.
The man simply must resign.
I have not had time to read the new draft. I thought there was supposed to be a reverse auction and a purchase mechanism. Did that change? No more auction. I will find a copy and check.
teddy up at the mothership
I’m a real ogre without my requisite 18 hours of shut-eye.
So far as I can tell, those are their only three options once they get acquire a “mortgage-related asset.”
Corporate Forenesic Auditors working for with FBI and DOJ Special Prosecutor Fitzpatric should examine all companies recieving taxpayer bailout funds. Citizens do you have a problem with that?
No sweat. Candidate McCain didn’t have time to read the 2 1/2 pages Pat Paulson wrote. Take your time.
Suspension of mark to market accounting still in? That is very bad.
And the stupid useless House GOP private insurance scheme is still in there.
That is like having a bunch of people whose houses have burned down get together and form a mutual fire insurance company. It won’t do anything. I hope there is no government guarantee for that insurance.
You can’t make that kind of stuff up.
McCain says stuff like that on TV and people still take him seriously? The media people still take him seriously?
Well, maybe not, let’s see what the polls say this week.
correct.
I clicked “recommend”. What happens if you click “Unrecommend”?
they already are!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26859850/
scarecrow will get mad?
OK scanned the plan. I am confused. I read earlier today that only direct purchases required equity, and revere auctions didn’t, which is why they put in a limit on executive compensation whenever securities were purchased through an auction.
But I don’t see any difference in the language of this version. All purchases require equity, it says. Stuff purchased through an auction are still purchased.
Any help finance person who understands the language appreciated. Or point me to a ‘Fishy Bailout Bills for Dummies’ guide, or something.
The author has to take Jonah Goldberg (DoughyPantload-Dickhead) to lunch.
I have got to vent. By having this clown car demolition derby, the investor class is subverting the election. That is the point. This is incredibly unpopular. If these folks were campaigning among real voters, they would do their best to oppose Paulson’s Plunder. Even Obama has got to stop deluding himself, and start fighting these “domestic enemies” of America. I feel better. Everyone click “recommend”.
The study by Martin Weiss that’s linked at this article underscores at least two objections to the MOAB proposals:
1) Even though $700B is a huge pile-o-bucks, the condition of the U.S. finance sector is one or more orders of magnitude worse. That makes the bill on the table a camel’s nose under the tent, pointed at far more down the line, if the money can be still be found by then.
2) Probably nothing terrifies these goofballs more than having to acknowledge the size of their losses. Looking at this Weiss report makes me suspect that the most important feature of these bills is not the money, though that’s real nice, but the accounting rule legislation and things like that. It’s not just a heist, but more importantly it’s the cover-up phase of a heist.
Just one of Weiss’s findings, which he derived from recent federal data:
The list is in the report. JPMorganChase and BofA, who’ve been buying up everyone else, are on the list. Citibank, whose holding company is being considered to buy Wachovia, is on the list.
Marking-to-market might be disasterous for such firms, and Prof. Foland and Teddy Partridge have mentioned some of the timing constraints above that might explain why this just has to get done raht now.
To understand just how we are being screwed, this is from the legislation:
“(e) PREVENTING UNJUST ENRICHMENT.—This subsection does not
apply to troubled assets acquired in a merger or acquisition, or a purchase
of assets from a financial institution in conservatorship or receivership,or
that has initiated bankruptcy proceedings under title 11, United States
Code.”
So ‘Unjust Enrichment’ doesn’t apply to JPMorganChase,BofA,Citi, or Barclay’s of England.
Is it raw yet?
I’m guessing that the government is not the one that buys the mortgage at the auction. Rather the government gives the mortgage the difference between some bailout price and what the mortgage actually sells for, and then the mortgage holder give the government (allegedly) equivalent value in warrants. But I’m just guessing.
So, IIUC, you’re saying that the legislation specifically allows for the “unjust enrichment” of the institutions you cite. Slick fuckers these Wall Street types. Very slick fuckers.
I demand equity!
The minute this passes, the Republicans will start howling about how the Democratic Congress led by Obama sold out the American public. And the Wall Street types won’t say a word in defense of the Democrats, because they know who their true friends are.
Many Butts Puckering nervously…according to Shaft. Perps blackberry messages picked up by FISA data mining. FBI is watching for smoke signals.
Their ‘reward’ for helping Paulson out. BUT it does show the duplicity of the Dem ‘leadership’; me, I follow Dylan’s advice “Don’t follow leaders and watch the parking meters’.
OK folks, time now to lay back or maybe get real, you know, prostrate, so as to lean against the ballistic liftoff this one’s going to give you:
Mussolini-Style Corporatism in Action: Treasury Conference Call on Bailout Bill to Investors
thanks for that link, i’m downloading the torrent now.
Guess what happens when the $700 billion does not free up the credit market?
Who takes the political hit…the repubs…no way…the dems go balls up and ask their constituents to do same. Not good for dems and Repubs run on fiscal responsibility…Dems wear bad economy either way. Nice going Nancy Get up off of the whitehouse desk and put impeachment back on the table. Attack rope a dope only works when you are in magnificent shape.
This is the October surprise.
Combined with the TARP repurchases and the m-to-m protection in case of some bottleneck somewhere, that one’s a beaut too, isn’t it? A commenter over at CR’s place points out:
“The Great US Treasury Robbery”. Thieves enter US treasury through White House basement and make off with Trillions of taxpayer fund while US Congress applauds. Hude amounts of capital enter the futures market betting that oil will go up on news of economic expansion. M3 increases exponentially as speculators borrow billions…inflation skyrockets… dollar drops and world money supply is tied to Euro. China calls in US debt. Arbitrage runs wild and short are restored.
When Wall Street gets through with Pelosi and Reid Mainstreet will not be happy campers.
Seems to me that not too long ago, we were complaining about Republican party discipline and how difficult it was to crack open their voting block.
Was that always a chimera, an illusion perpetuated by incompetence among the Dem leadership, or a reality? has the reality changed now?
Bob in HI
So, when did the sudden concern about leaking blackberries come about? I think we need one of EW’s timelines on this, starting with KKKarl Rove’s blackberry usage.
Bob in HI
I’ll be so glad when the pictures of lipstick pigs go out of style.
Update: since this post went up originally about noon Sunday, Speaker Pelosi’s office released a revised summary, and the bill’s draft language has also become available. Unfortunately, Oxdown currently limits my ability to update the post itself after it’s been up for a while. See NYT for link to pdf version.
In the meantime, see comment 38 above, which cites language that suggests that the provisions for acquiring equity are mandatory.
got that one right.