The US government has dumped billions into the coffers of Citigroup for some preferred stock, and guaranteed a bunch of worthless collateralized debt obligations for some more preferred. Their failed board of directors and top management are still in place, and we didn’t wipe out their shareholders, who stand to reap enormous rewards from our largesse, and we didn’t claw back the bonus pool from the bad bankers. Our reward for this incomparable generosity? In the fourth quarter alone, Citi took $1.77 million of our dollars, and spent it on lobbyists. It might be that Citi wants stuff from Congress that is in the national interest, but somehow I doubt it.
Bank of America, recipient of more billions, says it isn’t lobbying, but it can take comfort in knowing that the American Bankers Association is fighting for its interests.
“Nobody mentioned that you are giving up your Constitutional right to petition the government” when accepting federal money, said Edward L. Yingling, president of the American Bankers Association.
Is it just me, or does that sound arrogant? One of the ABA goals is to fight off the Chapter 13 cramdown supported by the Obama administration and the Democrats, not to mention FDL’s own Ian Welsh, not to mention the excellent Yves Smith, who points out the empirical data here, and certainly not to mention me.
So, one way or another, we are paying bankers to lobby against the interests of all of us. That sucks.
It’s common to hear people complain about lobbyists, but whining isn’t going to change anything. Kirsten Gillibrand has been doing something about it:
In Washington, Ms. Gillibrand has made a calling card of transparency, posting a “Sunlight Report” on her Congressional Web site that lists her meetings with lobbyists as well as the names of those seeking government grants known as earmarks. Some senior colleagues, in a club where such names are often considered state secrets, complain that this tended to make them look bad.
Look bad? Really? Since new Senator Gillibrand’s House website is unavailable, I don’t know exactly what it actually does. So, here’s a list of things I would like to see: the names of the lobbyists, the entity they represent, the issue they talked about, and a copy of any written materials provided. If we had that, we could actually respond with our own analysis.
Of course, we know that this means that lobbyists on our side are exposed to comment as well. If Planned Parenthood visits, the material goes on-line for analysis by the right-to-lifers. If Katie Porter shows up to argue for the cramdown, Phil Corwin of the American Bankers Association will be there too. The good news is that when Corwin tries to say that the cramdown is the work of the devil, and will drive up mortgage rates and destroy the financial system, we can focus directly on his bogus argument with our own materials. For example, we could point out that the price increases for mortgage credit arise from the fears of the banking industry, citing this article:
While rates are falling, borrowers face higher costs every step of the way, from rising fees for mortgage insurance to added costs that drive up the mortgage rate. At the same time, lenders have become more cautious about whom they will lend to, as more people lose their jobs, watch their incomes decline and fall behind on their bills.
On Monday, I am going to fax a letter to my congressman asking him to do this. I will follow up with a phone call. There isn’t any reason Jim Cooper shouldn’t do this. We should all insist on this level of transparency. President Obama agrees. Anyone else?






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Great article thanks
Mas
did you watch Bill Moyers last night? He did a great segment on the Wall Street theft/bailout. Someone had access to Paulson telling the fat cats that there was no way that restrictions on Executive compensation could stand.
Worth watching Moyers last night….as usual
You bet I agree — great post masaccio, thanks!
We can only properly govern ourselves if the topics up for discussion are open to all. If Citigroup can make a good case, then they should be able to convince the public as well as the recipients of their campaign donations. I’m comfortable that those genuinely lobbying on my behalf can win an open and fair debate. It’s time to level the playing field in governance.
Did you see the BoA timeline @ TPM?
Very interesting…
thanks..damn handing out compensation a month ahead of time. Where the fuck was the over sight?
Saw a guy out in front of the White House the other day with a sign that said “give our money back”
I did see the timeline, and what can you say. Is there any limit to the greed? I think not.
Too many still on Wall Street seem to cling to magical, superstitious beliefs about money. And the financial press continues to cheerleader for financial sorcery.
The banking lobbyists call to mind medieval alchemists leaning over a boiling pot, tossing in a frog, a turnip, a lump of lead, and some leeks, while chanting magical incantations and ‘Visualizing Gold’. The manic urgency to believe that some new formula or new invention can solve the problems of fraud, theft, and greed continues to amaze me.
Perhaps going forward, all banking lobbyists should be required to wear giant, pointy Dunce Caps and walk around in velvet robes embroidered with stars and alchemical symbols, while carrying Magic Pots containing live, croaking frogs.
At least their attire would make their willingness to abase themselves to superstitious, magical forms of money like CDOs and CDSs more obvious.
Require them to dress like that, and then see how seriously Congress takes them.
We also need the date in which they lobbied too! Always good to know too. ;-)
The Romanoff Republicans love their Champagne wishes and Caviar dreams…we need to burst their little bubble ASAP
The banking lobbyists call to mind medieval alchemists leaning over a boiling pot, tossing in a frog, a turnip, a lump of lead, and some leeks, while chanting magical incantations and ‘Visualizing Gold’. The manic urgency to believe that some new formula or new invention can solve the problems of fraud, theft, and greed continues to amaze me.
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beautifully stated
Even the Obama people seem to think regulation rather than prohibition is the solution. From today’s NYT:
The new trading procedures is a requirement that credit default swaps be traded on an exchange, a proposal I discussed here. Apparently “safer” is good enough for the Obama team. I disagree.
This is all business as usual. It has been from the beginning. Even with the economy on the edge of depression, everyone in the Congress, the White House (Obama or Bush), and the financial industry have learned absolutely nothing and continue to act as they have always acted. They haven’t gotten religion or seen the light. They may have had to adjust their scams but they are still scams. They have a problem? Buy a lobbyist, buy a solution. Nothing has changed. There is no change to believe in.
or even more directily;
“sunlight is to lobbyists as sunlight is to vampires…lobbiests are vampires”
and they are too, they are in the business of sucking the blood from the country
Good point about the date. I would hope the posting would be immediate, but even if it isn’t, we could still embarrass the heck out of them.
true enough hugh, we are here to put some cogs in their wheels, their scams will not be as malignant and we will continually hold their feet to the fire
let’s see what the second 100 hours from obama brings, it was pretty easy for him to satisfy a few of our desires with some fancy footwork, now let’s see him deliver on those and make certain he does more
far as I am concerned the biggest thing we can do right now is shed sum of that sunshine on the past adminstrations “evil doing” because they are “evil doers”
I have a question that may be the dumbest question ever….but here goes. Since we’ve actually nationalized the banks and spent billions doing it (to no avail) why not instead let all the banks go under and start fresh with a new bank and use the billions directly to make loans?
On the nothing has changed theme, Geithner still thinks that CDSs perform an important function. The clearinghouse idea is just a way to give them a veneer of respectability, but the simple fact of the matter is that they are insurance and should be regulated as insurance. All clearinghouses do is push around the exposure not get rid of it. And what is the point of CDSs if the idea is that it gives companies that sell CDSs a way to offset them either by buying them back up or taking out counter-CDSs. I mean why do it in the first place, except to justify shaky investments that should never have been made in the first place.
Don’t forget the $400 MILLION Citibank is paying for the “naming rights” for the new Mets stadium. Couldn’t we call it “F*** the Taxpayers” Park?
And then there’s however many million they spent to “sponsor” the Rose Bowl.
Finally there is also some sunlight on George Wills menu for the Obama visit
http://www.scholarsandrogues.c…..ack-obama/
We haven’t nationalized the banks. We just dumped a bunch of money on them and got nothing in return. As I said above, every financial institution I have seen continues to engage in one con after another. They have shown nothing but bad faith and yet despite this not just Bush’s financial team but Obama’s still shovel billions and even trillions into them hoping they will do the “right” thing. It is insane.
I believe any team that uses a locality, that team owes a debt of responsibility to that locality and it must be named according to a local figure, a historical event or the town itself
of course there would be legasy names like yankee stadium but no corporate names on parks that get public consideration
It is interesting that Gillibrand was posting meetings with lobbyists on her website. It is not clear that she will continue to do so as a Senator.
As a former lawyer for Altria/Phillip Morris Tobacco, and as an NRA goon, it would seem that she could be somewhat beholden to these special interest groups. If she got called out for not posting some meetings, she would put herself in a bad spot. IMHO, it may be that Gillibrand will discontinue the transparency action. It is a great idea – a great gimmick. We shall see if she continues it. It would be fantastic if all our representatives were required by law to do it.
taking a long drive for real now, it’s a gorgous day
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We haven’t actually nationalized the big money center banks. If we had taken common stock for the massive contributions, we would now control them. Instead, we took preferred stock which doesn’t have voting rights. So, we left the current management in place, and we didn’t dilute the control or the equity position of the existing shareholders.
The problem is to try to figure out how to run them if we did take them over. I think it is a manageable problem, but to the ideologues in the prior administration, this is an unthinkable solution.
The solution is to take them over, then cut out the diseased portions and put them in a bad bank. We fire top management, which is part of the sickness, and put in new people at the good bank. Then we add capital as necessary to insure that the good bank is solvent. We operate it for a while, and eventually sell it, either privately or in a public offering, or in a combination. The government gets some of its money back that way.
The toxic assets in the bad bank get liquidated over time. Some of them may need to be held to maturity to get the maximum value, but the government can wait.
This is the Swedish plan, and it is supported by most of the economists who are capable of looking at reality, like Krugman.
This is absolutely right. One of the reasons John Thain of Merrill Lynch got fired was that his traders were out there buying collateralized mortgage obligations, and lost a bunch of billions doing it. They were convinced that the market for that portion of the toxic waste had bottomed out. Apparently they don’t read Calculated Risk, which regularly reports on the housing situation.
dinallo threatened to regulate cds as insurance but backed off:
there’s still some stuff going on in ny state legislature that i haven’t tracked down – so i don’t know the current status, other than it did not end with the announcement from dinallo
By providing the date, it would put a lot of sunlight on the lobbiest’s intentions. ;-)
I think regulation as insurance is a better alternative than the exchange idea. The point of the exchange is that it would in essence be a private regulator, and, as I understand the submission to the CFTC, the first losses if someone fails are borne by the other players in the industry. As I point out in the article linked above, the capital structure isn’t strong enough to do this, meaning that we have another entity to big to fail.
I think insurance regulation is fairly good, and it is done by each State, so we have a better chance that it won’t be corrupted.
But, the threat is too great for the reward, at least for a financially conservative bankruptcy lawyer with a long memory.
one of the problems, as i understood it from the hearing, was the concern of how to identify when are cds being used as insurance and when are they not. i guess this was seen as a regulatory nightmare.
but of course, it is based on the premise that cds not being used as insurance (see gambling) have a place in our financial industry and should be subject to less regulation than cds being used for insurance purposes.
that’s the premise i’d like to see challenged. why not regulate all cds as insurance – whether or not they are being used for that purpose and just outlaw the rest?
love it! alchemists, indeed.
The government doesn’t want to manage millions of loans. They want to manage hundreds or huge ones to the banks who have been reliable clients low risk. They get prime rate and then turn around and loan out money at above prime and take on the individual risk and management duties.
The state could own the banks and set the rates and policies. It could dictate salaries and keep costs down because they don’t have to pay “investors” and return a profit. They could work at “break even”… couldn’t they?
Sounds good. But… there would be no possibility from tax revenues from the banking sector. Bank employees at all levels would be essentially government workers, there would be no competition and hungry employees wanting to get to the top of the heap by their “performance”.
Banking is an industry which makes money (profit) by selling money (loans) at a higher rate of interest then they pay for it (deposits). To generate the large profits that industry seeks, it needed to create other financial “instruments” which were higher risk, but higher return.
One way to get more cash was to sell loans to someone else at a profit.. If a loan was $100K and would return x% over Y years the bank would receive, for example $100K in interest payments. So they sold it presto for $105K and made a 5% return in say one month. The next holder of the note might do the same because there was still value in the long term interest payments. And so on and so on. Slice and dice, sell and take profits… lots of profits.
Selise, for pushback, take a look at this by Gretchen Morgenson in today’s NYT. She links to this and this.
The first one is technical and long, and here’s a taste:
The second link suggests that they be treated as insurance. I’m not quite sure how that affects existing CDSs.
I like this. I think Ms. Gillibrand’s “Sunlight Report” would go a long way toward balancing the playing field. It ought to be law. Personally, I’ve often thought that all lobbying should take place in a public venue, open to all sides of an issue, but I know that would probably cause govt. to seize up. This method of disclosure should be presented as a halfway measure between the secretive, closed, cronyism we have now and a totally open, come-one-come-all public argument on every single little thing.
I may be wrong but I believe the Democrats and Obama promised to list all lobbyists that had business with the Senate and House. Has this been done? Another thing we need to remember is that there are good lobbyists and nefarious lobbyists. Some work for the common good like money for healthcare, homeless programs, etc. I do want to know every single lobbyist that speaks to Congress for whatever reason. Lets find out what goes on behind the scenes for once. With the internet, we should get that information unfiltered by the media.
I think there needs to be an effort here to separate the John Thain’s of the world vs. common shareholders who may own a few hundred shares of stock in an otherwise modest portfolio.
Trust me, that person is as upset at these greedy bastards as we are, and have already seen 90% of their money flushed down the tubes.
Oh yes, I loved the Feynman quotation in that earlier piece of yours.
So what would be the Wall Street equivilent to Feynman’s glass of ice water, into which he dropped the o-ring. Thus did the o-ring freeze, leading to catastrophe.
Where is our ‘glass of ice water’ into which a quick dunk of a CDO or a CDS would instantly reveal — even to simpletons and the Senate Republicans — that ‘free market’ recklessness is guaranteed to lead to catastrophic problems.
Agree that the ‘exchange’ idea looks like a limp-wristed bait-and-switch.
They need more than an exchange overseeing them; they’ll still be used to take down companies, IMHO. Until the incentive is leached out, the bad conduct will continue.
The link to the last Bill Moyers show. During this program Moyers stated something about Paulson telling Wall Street execs that there was no way the restrictions to exec compensation could stand
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/index-flash.html
Paulson the Wall Street inside heist man with the keys to the Treasury and his Wall Street/ pals walked with the taxpayers $$$. Well their debt