I’m a bit conflicted about this. The Senate has opened an ethics probe into Roland Burris’s conflicting testimony about his relationship with Rod Blagojevich — as it should. But the moral authority of the Senate to cast judgment in the situation is seriously compromised by their lack of action with regard to Ted Stevens, who was actually convicted on federal corruption charges:
The Senate Ethics Committee has reported that it did not take any disciplinary actions last year, even though Alaska Republican Ted Stevens was convicted of seven felonies.
It was the second year in a row that the panel reported no disciplinary actions against any senator.
The committee’s year-end report, required under the 2007 lobbying overhaul (PL 100-81), does not include names of senators or staff members who might have been investigated without disciplinary actions being recommended. But it does pull back the curtain on the secretive panel’s activities.
The one-page document, released late Jan. 30, reveals that the committee did nothing — even privately — to admonish Stevens, whom a Washington, D.C., jury convicted Oct. 27 of seven felony counts of lying on his Senate financial disclosure forms.
The Washington Post is calling for Burris to resign, but if they ever called for Stevens to cash it in, I can’t find it.
John Nichols at the Nation:
Reid actually got the Burris question right in the first place.
The majority leader said that the Senate absolutely, positively, certainly, unquestionably would not seat a senator appointed by scandal-plagued Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich.
Really? Because if Harry Reid had knowledge that Roland Burris did this stuff, it was his obligation to come forward with it at the time. Beyond that, it isn’t his job — or the job of the US Senate — to dictate who they will or won’t seat if the person has been legally chosen by state law.
If Burris lied, he deserves a punishment appropriate to the crime, in accordance with the punishment meted out to others who have committed similar crimes. If the Senate indeed expels him, is this some new standard that they are going to set for themselves that will henceforth be applied to all members of the "club" going forward, or is Burris somehow an exception?
And I would also add — are those who are calling for him to be (appropriately) investigated also calling for George Bush to be investigated? Or are some crimes too big to fail?





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Thanks Jane, appreciate you weighing in on this.
digg is open.
Note to self: IOKIYAR.
Isn’t this, however, somewhat different since Burris either lied earlier to the Congress or withheld info? Any which way, this guy is bad news.
The thing is, Stevens was a corrupt Village pol; Burris is just your garden variety corrupt Illinois pol. So Stevens has that going for him.
And besides, like Knut says, IOKIYAR…
Tweety said the other day that if Burris is indicted, he will certainly be expelled.
The Ted Stevens example came immediately to mind. Wasn’t Harry Reid all “innocent until proven guilty” about his fellow club member then? Of course, Ted’s a GOP, and we know Harry likes them better.
Can’t think of any other difference between Burris and Stevens that would cause Harry Reid to treat them differently, can you?
But Burris is a Democrat… there’s a different standard.
sadly
Burris committed the cardinal sin of embarrassing the Dem leadership by showcasing their ineptitude.
Biggest difference is tenure.
Heh. Margin calls on Goldman Sachs partners who can’t meet them. A huge helping of schadenfreude. But of course, GS is gonna help them borrow the money to meet the calls.
Not for Harry Reid, necessarily.
Party membership and, sadly but true for a convert to the Mormon Church, race may play a part. LDS has a long tradition of the dark-hued trickster.
Did WaPo ever ask diaper boy Vitter to resign? Probably sent him a carton of Pampers.
Jane I couldn’t agree more than in regard to your comment about lack of moral authority on the part of the Senate. But that is part of their broken code: stick by your pals in the Senate no matter what kind of crap they pull. In regard to Burris, he is an outsider. The comment from the reader who said “biggest difference is tenure” got that right.
You don’t have to be a racist to think that Burris is a f**k up who needs to be exited asap.
And Stephens got elected to the Senate about a week after fire was invented, so that makes him an insider – whether a convicted felon or not. Burris just waltzed onto the scene, so it’s much easier for them to shank him over the issue. He ain’t part of the club yet…
Buncha clowns…
Yup.
One thing that I never understood is did Stevens list the gifts on his income taxes you know like Daschle forgot to list limo services?
Besides, I’m always in favor of getting rid of embarrassing Ds asap. They did us a favor with Spitzer, who was a loose cannon who would have done a great deal of damage if he’d stayed around too long.
So this double standard of letting embarrassing Rs stay around forever, but getting rid of those in the D camp, suits me just fine.
Fab snark!
If he reported the gifts, that would seem to be a defacto admission of guilt. And if he didn’t report the gifts, that sounds like a tax problem to me.
I know, eh … we take her for granted sometimes.
Ding
Stevens or Rangel should be first. Burris, Third.
Not going to happen. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi need Burris’ vote and he’ll stay right where he is until and unless Illinois decides differently. There’s a lot that needs to be done right away with all hands on deck as the saying goes (broken wrists or not) so I don’t see anything changing other than how loud someone shouts about how it’s being (mis)handled. With Kennedy out and Minnesota unresolved Burris is needed. What choices are left? Appoint someone else with an expected Republican hissy fit or a Special Election, both choices less palatable than Roland even with his Bunning like memory problems.
Truth.
Burris reached his level of incompetence when he was Illinois Attorney General and insisted that Rolando Cruz should be executed when it was clear the Cruze was not guilty of murdering Janeen Nacarico. In spite of his own office’s finding that Cruz was not guilty of the crime. That’s where he lost my support, and I’d endorsed him twice, once for Comptroller and once for AG. Much to my subsequent chagrin. His downhill slide into Lar “America First” Daley territory was pretty fast after that–the perennial, clueless, venal candidate. And he’s still all of those, and then some. The ONLY reasons Blago tapped him for the job was to give the finger to the Illinois Dem establishment and because he was sure Burris would be venal enough to take the job in spite of his earlier condemnations of Blago’s antics.
Wonder how much worse it would be if Senators were simply chosen by state wide lotteries.
Stevens is gone from Senate therefore not appropriate anymore.
OT – Working in mental health for 20 years I’ve known my share of patients who committed suicide over the years but not actually being a part of their family or extended family it is sort of a detached sensation. We felt sad and wondered what could have been done to prevent such action. I got a call right after I got to work this morning that a very good friend committed suicide yesterday evening. Now I know how extended family members feel when they lose a loved one to suicide. Sorry for dumping but I just can’t keep it inside.
Thanks for the history. I was vaguely aware that his was checkered but didn’t know the details. I’ll never understand why innocence is not a reason for release from punishment. That part completely baffles me.
Ummmm…Stevens was acquitted…the judge basically says the prosecution manufactured the evidence.
I can’t say I’m surprised. I said before that no one with any integrity would accept such an appointment from such a corrupt and sleazy figure as Blagojevich. Even people would no integrity would think twice about.
That Burris has come out now and admitted trying to raise money for Blago suggests that he thinks either Blago’s brother was talking to Fitzgerald or that there was something on tape that Fitzgerald had. Otherwise why bring it up now?
(((((SouthernDragon)))))
i am so so sorry SD.
Stick with the survivors. The worst part about being a relative of a suicider is that the subject is taboo, so everyone acts embarrassed around you.
Got a link for that?
Come on…Burris was a Machine Comptroller in Illinois responsible to the Daley clan…I grew up there…I liked Richard J, but Richard M. is just pure corruption where the dead vote and pay for play is the name of the game.
Diaper Dave and Wide Stance. That’s all I’m going to say.
Sorry for your pain.
moderator at the WAPO has no response to this at their discussion site:
double standard
posted at 2/18/2009 1:08 PM EST
ouch
First post: 2/18/2009
Last post: 2/18/2009
Total posts: 2
Does the WAPO have one standard for Democrats and another one for the GOP?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t recall an editorial calling for the resignation of Sen. Ted Stevens, and he was convicted of several felonies in federal court.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..rentPage=0
I thought the case was on appeal but also hearing lots of motions….. so far as I know Steven’s is a convicted felon…..
Hugs. I do know how you feel and I am so sorry. Three members of my family and a childhood friend all committed suicide. It’s really hard to take. My thoughts are with you.
I think this is just another pearl of wisdom pulled out of ass. Drops by, leaves a little smelly present and slinks away.
(((SouthernDragon)))
Had a very close friend commit suicide many years ago. Very sad. Hang in there bro.
I found it….. it was Faux that reported instead of conviction but that he was acquitted and of course Faux is always right…… another one of the 18%er who gets dumber from watching them….
Hey, katymine. Didja get to see Obama?
((((((SD)))))) I cannot tell you how much my heart goes out to you….. thank you for sharing this with us….
Cspan…. didn’t want to deal with the hassle ….. Did you see the people with signs? …. Obama’s car went right by them but didn’t see what signs said….. have not received any emails for an organized event….. hopefully it was supporters…
What is needed-but will never happen as congress lacks the will and “we the people” don’t seem to give a shit-is for both the House and the Senate(or if the people whould get poed enough about corruption) to farm out their ethics panels to real outsiders. Citizens who have no desire to become politicians, who, if such persons can be found, would take the ethics decisions out of the hands of those in congress who will not-god forbid- accuse their brothers with any crime. Non paying positions, volunteers, apolitical, non lawyers, not interested in being lobbyed or in being on TV. People who could be drawn from a large bank each time using different people-say, no more than 9, with at least 6 out of the 9 having to agree to throw the bums out. Complete transparency with all documents posted on the web along with all supporting or opposing arguments. Something like this is the only way to enforce standards. It has been proved over and over that self policing-except for the movie rating system-does not work.
Any one want to volunteer for such a board?
Can’t think of any other difference between Burris and Stevens that would cause Harry Reid to treat them differently, can you?
I should change my handle to TabulaRasa.
So sorry, SD.
Oh no. ((SD))
My take on this is much the same as eCAHNomics’. Burris never had time to become part of the club. While I don’t like the apparent double standard of enforcement for Republicans and Democrats, I can see the silver lining. My guess is that if it continues, it will be apparent to the public, as well.
As I wrote some time ago, Burris’ ethical stature wouldn’t make him stand out in the Senate (Jane, you’d get a kick out of the title). It would be nice if the answer to Jane’s question were “yes, there’s a new standard”, but the reality is that it won’t.
Very sorry to hear that, SouthernDragon. My sympathy and love for you.
Ha — I emailed Glenn Greenwald on this because he is always talking about the two-tiered justice system in this country. Here you have the same thing in the Senate — if you are Democrat — go after them, if you are a Republican Senator from Stevens to Vittner to Craig, nothing to see here folks. Darn crazy I tell you.
Big hugs, dragon man. it’s so sad when we can’t understand and heal what hurts others are feeling.
SouthernDragon – here is a link and a story –
http://www.amazon.com/101-Ways…..amp;sr=1-2
A friend of mine just sent me this coincidentally – the author was writing about helping people grieve when she fell sick and asked 6 friends to help finish the book for deadline. Friends did, author died, but willed proceeds of book to 6 friends.
the reason friend and i were talking was over this piece of writing – author’s impression of inauguration =
Thanks everybody. It hasn’t really sunk in yet and since we don’t have the details yet just adds to the questions.