So, late Saturday/early Sunday, we learn that AIG, already recipient of some $170 billion of US government coin, is set to pay out $165 million in something called “retention bonuses” to the people in the financial products unit, the very division that brought the insurance giant to its knees. Cue the righteous indignation.
Righteous, but also rightful—this dispersal is outrageous. But while most behind the microphones, on the opinion pages, and in the halls of Congress will declare this the height of hubris, or a simple “screw you” to the American people, they will be missing a slightly more nefarious conclusion:
These are not retention bonuses–this is protection money.
I had a drink with a friend last week–she works for the NYSE in Europe–and she commented that in her 15 years in the market, the march of "progress" has been about who can come up with the next gimmick, the next algorithm that is slightly more nuanced, complicated, and arcane than the previous. Anything that can give you an edge over your competitors. She said you can see similar growth curves repeated in each of the derivatives as they came along: a slow growth start, then a rapid, steep climb, and then a rapid leveling off, followed by everyone rearranging the deck chairs while they scramble for the next hot gimmick. CDOs, CDSs fall into this pattern.
Do not assume that Edward Liddy, the government appointed chairman of AIG, fully understands what went on within the financial products unit, do not assume he understands their "gimmick," but assume that he knows that something is up and that these bonus babies know what it is.
Many more expert than I believe these “smartest guys in the room (AIG edition)” cooked the books—I’d say that’s more than possible–but even if they didn’t, Liddy likely fears that without these guys, it might be impossible to sort out what the hell they did.
Libby also worries that they will take this "expertise" somewhere else, and that Somewhere Else, inc., will then have a competitive advantage over AIG, since they will know not only the game last played, and how to play it better, they will know where AIG is on solid ground, and where it is not.
And, worst fear of all: the disgruntled AIG employees will not land a new job, and to make a little cash, or in order to boost their personal stock, or simply out of sheer vindictiveness they will start talking to friends, regulators, and/or the press.
AIG is paying to prevent this from happening. Retention = protection, pure and simple.
Obviously, this not a legal opinion on my part–just an opinion. I would assume that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner can read between the lines, and that he knows what Liddy is really saying here, and that the legalities (such as they are) are little more than window dressing. I assume Geithner has no interest in this all becoming a public bloodbath any more than Liddy does.
One heck of a racket, indeed.
We’ll be delivering our petition to Congress telling them to put a stop to this legalized racketeering on Wednesday morning when Barney Frank’s House Financial Services Committee holds a hearing on AIG at 10am ET. You can sign it here and leave your comments for Congress.





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Dear. God.
Thanks for shedding that new light on this (for me, an average Joe). But doesn’t that then open all kinds of doors? One of those Bonus Babies must have an “issue’ or two lurking in their closet; a little problem with child support payments, or a little tax problem? Make a deal to go easy for some valuable info on the Bigger Fish and before long you’ve got a solution!
Hey, maybe I should be a Prosecutor!
Or maybe I watch too much TV.
c.
“Buy this magazine or we’ll shoot this dog”
This act has been played since time immemorial — let’s call their bluff and see what happens. Let them sue. Do you think they will find a sympathetic jury anywhere in America? I don’t.
Liddy . . . Libby . . . take your pick.
G. Gordon, or Scooter.
Something Freudian is slipping here, huh?
Teddy, I honestly don’t think even a $1000. payment of hush money will quiet me down.
I call.
Did AIG London deliberately price credit default swap risk too low to generate sales and bonuses for themselves?
They underpriced it–that is clear after the fact.
If they did it on purpose for their own enrichment–then yank the bonus
AIG is evil, kill it!
R66
I put in this comment earlier under Jane’s post on Geithner and AIG earlier where it was EPU’d, but it’s probably better suited here..
I found this hilarious list of posts, from 2 years ago (so before the present crisis) about AIG, both as an employer and service company:
http://www.indeed.com/forum/cm…..king/t4585
All through my career in finance (and no, I never worked for AIG), AIG had an industry-wide reputation as one of the worst employers in the world, for junior staff all the way up to execs. I remember a friend telling me that, back in the big bad Greenberg days, when Greenberg, Greenberg fils, and other family members visited, all employees were expected to move obsequiously to the sides of the lobby and look away and all elevators were frozen so that no lowly servitors would cloud the sight of the great seigneur. All in all, a hideous excuse for a company.
This isn’t a good company gone bad.. it was a racket to begin with.
From Wiki answer:
“A Retention bonus is an incentive paid to a key employee to retain them through a critical business cycle. This could be a transitional period (such as mergers and acquisitions) to ensure productivity or to meet a critical milestone. It has proven to be a very good tool in persuading employees to stay.”
Arrest them for fraud they can work to get AIG out of debt in prison.
Also civil suits for investor fraud take away everything they own punish one teach a thousand.
Forget bribing them to cooperate just send them a copy of OZ from HBO and then explain the difference between general population and Club Fed.
This makes SO much more sense than anything I’ve read, and I’ve read a LOT trying to understand this mess!
Now, if history repeats itself, follows as it were, there should be bodies dropping at some point here. Seriously. Plane crashes, accidents, disappearances and the like.
This is a “mafiaesque” tale, to be sure. Blackmail, protection money, all the same.
If I were Nate, I’d be working on a list of the first and most likely to making their deals in the great netherplace and when.
The top 10 list of those headed for a dirt nap? That sort of thing SHOULD be shortly upon us here.
just sayin’………………………
Fresh Air today:
She made the point, somewhat sarcastically, that the only reason to “retain” these knuckleheads is that ony they would know how to unwind theses complex schemes.
I’m sorry. I’m a former securities lawyer, and I don’t understand your implications. Can you spell them out more precisely?
For instance, the part about “competitive advantage” and “taking their expertise somewhere else:” post AIG, isn’t it going to be a little hard to recreate this casino? One hopes that there will at long last be regulation, so running the three card monte won’t be a repeat winner. Thus I don’t understand the “wisdom,” even given AIG’s way of thinking, re “retaining” these now useless tools.
Second, just what the hell is it you think these disgruntled former [or even remaining] AIG employees will be saying to the press, competitors, regulators? Was there a Murder For Hire unit within AIG as well? I’m as tinfoil hat-ish as the next person, but your summary just doesn’t provide enough details to support your conclusion.
More, and more concrete, please.
I’m a little unclear on the suggested motivation for Liddy to want to make these retention bonus payments to the traders. If the traders take the bonuses and stay, why assume that they would also go on to cooperate with investigations (self-incriminate), any more than they would if they were subpoenaed later after leaving AIG? And If the traders need lots of extra money now, then why assume the retention bonuses will be enough for them? As described, this makes the situation sound as though the traders are vulnerable to being turned as spies or agents by competitors, even foreign governments.
Given all that, I’m not quite sure how paying the retention bonuses now actually helps overcome either of those factors.
Heh. The way you say it makes it sound like hush money.
* wink *
… more concrete boots, please.
hope you don’t mind me fixing it for you.
(not that I’m advocating anything, yada, yada…)
The game is over we do not have the cash to bailout the Credit default swaps for much longer. And when we do run out of cash public pressure will call for them to be banned.
Just the rumor last week that the stock uptick rule might be gone sent the market up.
Citi rising was the reason the MSM gave but Citi at its current size is a sneeze to the market nothing more.
Regulate, provide transparency and investors will feel safe about investing. Government guarantees are that the assets are really the value they are now are needed loan guarantees of 95% are not.
Unless we get 95% of the upside.
How will these 95% loan guarantees be counted on the federal budget asset, debt or off the books until we get profit or loss?
Great point and did they do those before? If so yank previous bonuses!
AIG= Al-quaeda In Graysuits
Darth’s death squad might be laying low now that the public is onto them, but your right if certain people close to Bush talk.
AIG = Al-quaeda In
GraysuitsGovernmentthere, fixed.
good one!
I would agree that the rationales for retaining these employees make no sense. They have an incentive to continue to fudge the books to justify bonuses and hide any of their past wrongdoing. They have no place to go. Seriously, who but a crook would hire anyone from this unit? As you say, the idea that this was the next thing and they would need to be kept on to preserve a competitive advantage is strange to say the least. I agree that selling flimflam CDSs, hopefully, won’t have any future and will be outlawed. Also I don’ think that what AIGFP was doing was all that sophisticated. They were selling paper based on the belief that they would always have the upside profits from the premiums and that they would never have to pay off on any downsides because there weren’t going to be any. There is nothing cutting edge about that. It’s just stupid.
I’m thinking…never mind.
Well, every business I’ve ever worked for or owned used some sort of to-the-penny accounting system, and if the transaction is complicated there’s always a set of records to show what or how the accounting works.
Which means this is pretty much bullshit. And if we really can’t decode the books if the guy who sold the product is gone, than your point is correct–
The books are cooked, and Liddy doesn’t want the explosion that will come when it becomes public. We need sunshine here, and lots of it.
NewsHour on and doing its best to misrepresent the AIG controversy. Seriously, Judy Woodruff just asked, But how can you tell if you should pay the employees of AIGFP bonuses?
What we should be asking about is the $1.2 billion AIG set aside for bonuses, not just this $165 million. Why are we only talking about this now? Why wasn’t this stopped before?
The economy is toast and likely to be that way for years you need a good economy with lots of money in it to run the kind of schemes AIG was running.
These traders will not have a market for their skills for years. And in those years new laws and technology will make their skills obsolete.
Judy is a tool.
I’m sorry, but I already said downstairs I’m so sick of these lame excuses. If this is true, and I just do not believe it is and that these buttheads are too clever by half, but if it is true that it takes a thief to catch a thief, then let’s hire a flipping thief and get to work!
Calling Alex Mundy.
I want to like her, but she disappoints me time and again.
I thought it was Always Invest in Garbage.
Thank you!!
Assistance appreciated (and enjoyed).
…one license plate at a time!!
Here’s the statement Congressman Mike Michaud of Maine sent out today:
Judy Woodruff is a moron, she earnestly asks questions with no brain cells engaged.
How many Enron veterans now work for AIG? Many went to UBS, and one can see the ruin they have wrought there. My God, over Air America, they are now talking about the Enron/UBS scams and the similarities with AIG…bingo!!
http://tinyurl.com/6loxym
ENRON’S COLLAPSE: THE COMPANY; UBS Wins The Bidding For Enron’s Trading Unit
By JONATHAN D. GLATER
Published: Saturday, January 12, 2002
The Enron Corporation announced yesterday that UBS Warburg had won the bidding for its energy-trading business, which was the crown jewel of Enron and was responsible for about 90 percent of its revenue.
Terms of the transaction were not disclosed in the company’s presentation to a federal bankruptcy judge yesterday afternoon, barely an hour after the end of nearly 24 hours of marathon negotiations.
Lawyers for Enron said details would be released on Monday morning, after various contracts are drafted over the weekend.
”UBS Warburg is excited by the prospect of re-establishing this technology-based trading business,” John P. Costas, chief executive of UBS Warburg, said in a statement. ”It will be a valuable extension of our worldwide trading activities.”
continued at link above~~
How about we get Andy Fastow to root them out?
I don’t think this crisis will be resolved without a Federal ban on CDS & derivative transactions, like the “bank holiday” FDR declared in the Great Depression. Then, with the CDS lockdown, declare AIG insolvent and break it up. Then permit CDS & derivative transactions to resume in a heavily regulated environment.
Without that, all our money is being thrown into a black hole.
Bob in HI
Watching Niall Ferguson’s PBS special on the financial crisis, he talked about how after the collapse of Enron, the traders and financial fanooglers were hired on Wall Street to come up new products there. We really need to stamp this sort of stuff out.
Barney Frank used to be my congressman – what I’m going to tell him is that there needs to be an investigation, and anyone who doesn’t cooperate fully is barred for life from any job in the financial industry. No US company with any licensing or regulatory oversight can be permitted to hire them, and overseas companies must divulge any listed employees to US regulatory boards to do business in the US.
The majority of people really do know when they are working for a crooked company (or a dirty division in an otherwise clean company). And they should worry more about it.
Downright weird that nobody’s started talking a CDS exchange up yet, nor outlawing naked CDSes.
I see some folks beat me to the punch on this.
But there are a number of ways to ensure cooperation. And I bet Obama would enjoy giving the announcement.
Anyone know how many persons are present in the room during exit interviews at the executive level?
Retention contracts, as such, sound like prenuptial and non-aggression pacts, designed to prevent a first strike, making ‘extortion’ impossible.
… that the uptick rule might be REINSTATED sent the market up.
Maybe it was written in granite during the Bush admin.
I seem to remember somebody answering Congressional questions and mentioning that his firm has in fact set up a clearing house for them.
I think a lot of ideas about industry regulation, including outlawing naked CDSs, will be discussed in public over the next few months. I know it’s been discussed on blogs and probably has also been discussed by some in Congress in private after their public hearings.
Corporate aristocrats involved in corporate crime has bamboozled America on a massive scale. The liberties lost by so many Americans resulting from theses criminal actions was forewarned.
It’s not George Bush’s fault for not clamping down on this sort of thing after Enron collapsed, okay? It’s President Obama’s fault. /s