Crossposting link: http://lokywokys.blogspot.com.

I used the “link” thingy and it didn’t come out. Oh well.

Thanks. By the end of that interview, I was seething and was more than a bit pissed off at Rachel for continuing to be so goddamn cordial to that bitch ignorant bigot.

The thing is you should have been interviewing her instead of Rachael. The problem with Cable news even “LEFTY” Cable. Is the rule that Trumps all.. and that is “Don’t piss them off so muck that they won’t come back” Its all about access, access, access. This is why we need Blogs like yours to cut to the quick. Thanks

thanks lokywoky. recommended.

Wasserman-Schultz also mentioned the Cuban response to the hunger strike by Antunez.

I was disappointed that Rachel didn’t follow up on Wasserman-Schultz’s lack of empathy for the tortured, or her hypocrisy regarding Cuba.

Wasserman-Schultz proves that not all the dimwitted idiots in Congress are Republicans.

Touche.

Ms. Wasserman-Schulz was the CongressCritter who put backing her Republican House peers ahead of recruiting and electing Florida Democratics to take their place. Ms. Insider let’s call her.

How can she pretend to be a lawmaker – isn’t that Congress’ principal function? – when she presumes guilt because an errant executive abducts suspects off the streets, imprisons them in secret, lawless prisons, tortures them, breaks them, and forgets about them?

I’ve heard Florida has one of the worst public school systems in America, thanks to its unwillingness to impose an income tax to pay for them. Ms. Wasserman-Schulz would seem Exhibit 1 for that claim.

I’ve heard Florida has one of the worst public school systems in America, thanks to its unwillingness to impose an income tax to pay for them. Ms. Wasserman-Schulz would seem Exhibit 1 for that claim.

That is true. Florida funds its schools with property tax revenues – and the new gov and the leg just did a huge property tax cut (!) to the delight of the right-wing-nuts. Now the schools are scrambling even harder (if that is possible). Another issue is that Florida has its own No Child Left Behind testing regimen. The de facto result of that is that the kids are being tested twice as much as in most schools (which is too much already). Not surprisingly, the end result is that the kids are learning absolutely nothing of any value.

As far as Ms. W-S, I was a big fan during the campaign of ‘08 – she did such a good job of banging down the Rethug nonsense and was very clear and level-headed about that stuff. I have come to regret that position and find myself wishing she would lose her next election.

Such a good post…

I saw the interview and like commenters here, rethought my good opinion of Wasserman-Schultz. She sounded like a wingnut. I know she must have some white, Cuban senior citizens in her district but there can’t be many of them left.

Dugg

” The Miami Cuban vote, comprising more than 80 percent of all Hispanics in Miami-Dade County, is itself not monolithic: There are three “Miami Cubans” – the exiles who arrived in the 60s and 70s, now senior citizens, who are staunch Republicans; the exiles who arrived since the 1980 Mariel Boatlift, which is split between Democratic and Republican; and the U.S.-born Miami Cubans who tend to vote Democratic.

And within the Miami Cuban community, there are fissures. Before 1980, Cuban exiles were white, middle-class professionals. Since 1980, Cuban exiles have been people of color, poor, and without the skills necessary to succeed in a market economy.

Miami Cubans look on in horror, and realize that what they long for is nostalgia for a Cuba, a time, a world that no longer exists. So when Giuliani or Romney come by and promise to “free” Cuba, this may have meant something in the 60s or 70s, when the exiles were young or middle-aged. But the Republican die-hard Cubans in Little Havana are in their 70s and 80s, more concerned about Medicaid and Medicare than they are about anything they lost on that tropical island in a different life. “

http://news.newamericamedia.or…..02d6934028

Thanks RevBev. Appreciate much the input.

Also, thanks to selise and all others who responded.

And thanks for the Diggs too!

I made a huffy drive by reference to the same interview last night; thank you for taking the time to write a diary and articulating what this household was feeling :)

The reason that the torturers have been able to get away with their crimes is that inside too many Americans there is a little voice which says that, if they have to torture people to prevent another 9/11, well, that is regrettable but necessary. Dick Cheney is the foremost exponent of this philosophy. The flaw in this logic is that torture is the wrong way to gain cooperation. Much better would have been to educate detainees about the tragic consequences of terrorism, and how it hurts even the people it is pretending to help.

We already know that a number of innocent people who were abused and tortured at Guantanamo who were not terrorists before have now joined Al-Quaida. And I recently heard a televised report which recounted an instance in which a detainee had cooperated voluntarily because he himself had concluded that our view of the way the world should be was the right one, not because he was tortured, but because he came to believe that terrorism was wrong. So, it has become clear that the Bush Administration has now multiplied the numbers of those who want to kill us while reducing the numbers of those who would have been willing to let us alone.

Putting aside, if that is possible, the terrible effects of torture on its victims, I am deeply concerned about the effect such torture has on the torturors, hardening them to the suffering of others. This from a government which claims to follow the Judeo-Christian tradition and to be pro-life.

great post, lokywoky!

when i watched wasserman-shulz spew that crap my blood boiled. rachel did interject something at the end like the detainees haven’t been found guilty of anything yet and that’s the problem, but it came a little late to undercut debbie’s heap o’hypocrisy.

Maddow doesn’t show any contempt for people who clearly deserve it. She tries to be a bit too urbane and genteel with them. Her hosannas to Pat Buchanan make me absolutely sick.

I used to watch Olbermann and Maddow every night, the only TV I watch (except Family Guy at 11-12 midnite on Cartoon Network). Now I’ve cut them out too. KO’s outrage is too over-the-top when you know there is going to be no follow up by any outlet. I have enough events in my life to elevate my blood pressure.

Thanks, bluebutterfly for the info.

Thanks loky, dugg and recommended.

IIRC, Debbie voted against the GOP and the blue dogs on Melissa Bean’s amendment, cave-in, to the banksters.

I strongly suspect that the banksters, flush with our cash, are already looking for candidates who they can run against her in the primary and the general.

I sometimes think that the Democratic Caucus’s principal political aim is to not make the Republicans look bad by comparison.

BTW, here’s the permalink to this article at lokywoky’s place, just in case you try to get there a couple of weeks from now.

You are absolutely right on lokywoky.I think it still seems to escape these self righteous congress people that we,held 16yrs old kids at Gitmo for 6+ yrs without charging ‘em.But more over look at the self righteousness now from many of the congress-critters about Cuba.”Cuba must release all so called political prisoners”, while on the same island Gitmo exist with prisoners who have been locked away with out a trial for 6+ yrs by good ole USA.

And that isn’t the worst of it. I’m still waiting to see what they do with the Uighurs. They cannot go back to China because they will be put in jail and probably tortured. No one else wants them because they’ve been in Gitmo. The Uighur community in Maryland was perfectly willing to take them if the US would grant them asylum.

But the wing-nuts started screaming about terr’rists in our back yard and put a screeching halt to that.

Everyone agrees they are completely and totally innocent – were in the wrong place at the wrong time but were not part of the war in Afghanistan, or the Taliban, or Al Quaeda.

So there they sit. In prison. Completely innocent. And they will continue to sit for how long?

Yeah, our ‘justice’ system is really working well.