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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2904</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s also VoteVets.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d sure like to see ALL of these groups blanketing southern Virginia [home of many current Navy personnel &amp; retirees] with McCain’s record on veterans’ matters.  Hell, they don’t even have to proselytize — just provide the facts &amp; his voting record.  It’s shameful that he gets to pull off this crap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s also VoteVets.</p>
<p>I’d sure like to see ALL of these groups blanketing southern Virginia [home of many current Navy personnel &amp; retirees] with McCain’s record on veterans’ matters.  Hell, they don’t even have to proselytize — just provide the facts &amp; his voting record.  It’s shameful that he gets to pull off this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2896</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;VFW considers itself nonpartisan.  I found an interesting article on their site encouraging vets to vote and the political makeup of the military community.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=news.newsDtl&amp;did=4768&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;check it out.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Three CNN/Gallup/USA Today polls taken during the 2004 presidential campaign revealed that 47 percent of America’s veterans aligned themselves politically as Republican, 42 percent as Democrat and 11 percent as Independent. Ideologically, they identified themselves as 43 percent conservative, 43 percent moderate and 16 percent liberal. More important, however, is the fact 74 percent of veterans voted in the 2004 presidential election compared to 63 percent of the general population, according the the U.S. Census Bureau.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VFW considers itself nonpartisan.  I found an interesting article on their site encouraging vets to vote and the political makeup of the military community.  <a href="http://www.vfw.org/index.cfm?fa=news.newsDtl&amp;did=4768" rel="nofollow">check it out.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Three CNN/Gallup/USA Today polls taken during the 2004 presidential campaign revealed that 47 percent of America’s veterans aligned themselves politically as Republican, 42 percent as Democrat and 11 percent as Independent. Ideologically, they identified themselves as 43 percent conservative, 43 percent moderate and 16 percent liberal. More important, however, is the fact 74 percent of veterans voted in the 2004 presidential election compared to 63 percent of the general population, according the the U.S. Census Bureau.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2893</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;morning to all true supporters of democracy.  This post also needs a link to VetVoice which has the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1973&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Miserable Record of John Sidney McCain III.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It doesn’t matter which vet group says what.  McInsane’s record speaks volumes all by itself.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>morning to all true supporters of democracy.  This post also needs a link to VetVoice which has the <a href="http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1973" rel="nofollow">Miserable Record of John Sidney McCain III.</a></p>
<p>It doesn’t matter which vet group says what.  McInsane’s record speaks volumes all by itself.</p>
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		<title>By: alank</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2883</link>
		<dc:creator>alank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is of course two other important veteran groups:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IVAW — &lt;a href=&quot;http://ivaw.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iraq (and Afghanistan) Veterans Against the War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;VAIW — &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vaiw.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Veterans Against the Iraq War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They’re not really impressed with either candidate wrt imperial policy that is the hallmark of the current Washington regime.  They don’t think much of the Congress, either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is of course two other important veteran groups:</p>
<p>IVAW — <a href="http://ivaw.org/" rel="nofollow">Iraq (and Afghanistan) Veterans Against the War</a></p>
<p>and</p>
<p>VAIW — <a href="http://www.vaiw.org/" rel="nofollow">Veterans Against the Iraq War</a></p>
<p>They’re not really impressed with either candidate wrt imperial policy that is the hallmark of the current Washington regime.  They don’t think much of the Congress, either.</p>
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		<title>By: FrankProbst</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2882</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankProbst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why does the IAVA hate the troops?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does the IAVA hate the troops?</p>
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		<title>By: Wembley</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2879</link>
		<dc:creator>Wembley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Clarification: How are they received by both members of the military and civilians?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification: How are they received by both members of the military and civilians?</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2878</link>
		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Citizen Wembley:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both the IAVA and the VVA are the real deal…the problem with the Iraq war now is that it has gone on so long and there is no draft to create an immediate anti-war movement inside the military, those that are left on active duty have made their pact with the devil and they can’t afford to question the crimes they have enabled in the name of our country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen Wembley:</p>
<p>Both the IAVA and the VVA are the real deal…the problem with the Iraq war now is that it has gone on so long and there is no draft to create an immediate anti-war movement inside the military, those that are left on active duty have made their pact with the devil and they can’t afford to question the crimes they have enabled in the name of our country.</p>
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		<title>By: Wembley</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2877</link>
		<dc:creator>Wembley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When these results came out last time, I used them in a small debate with an active duty friend of mine.  He disregarded both the IAVA and the Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) as “fringe supposed veterans groups.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While I don’t trust his view (he’s extremely close-minded), I have to admit I know little of the two groups, and had never heard of the IAVA before the results reached the news.  My question is: How are these two groups actually received? Where do they stand in comparison with, say, the VFW?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When these results came out last time, I used them in a small debate with an active duty friend of mine.  He disregarded both the IAVA and the Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) as “fringe supposed veterans groups.”</p>
<p>While I don’t trust his view (he’s extremely close-minded), I have to admit I know little of the two groups, and had never heard of the IAVA before the results reached the news.  My question is: How are these two groups actually received? Where do they stand in comparison with, say, the VFW?</p>
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		<title>By: Badwater</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2876</link>
		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a former POW, St. McCain is not required to support the troops.  The troops, however, are required to worship at the feet of St. McCain.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former POW, St. McCain is not required to support the troops.  The troops, however, are required to worship at the feet of St. McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/514/comment-page-1#comment-2875</link>
		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;P.S. Raven&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And maybe it’s time that we regular folks, the real American people stand up for ourselves and our candidate and jest say “ENOUGH”!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. Raven</p>
<p>And maybe it’s time that we regular folks, the real American people stand up for ourselves and our candidate and jest say “ENOUGH”!!</p>
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