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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3270</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;” “[Obama] said, too, that our troops in Afghanistan are ‘air raiding villages and killing civilians,’” Palin said, mischaracterizing a 2007 remark by Obama. “I hope Americans know that is not what our brave men and women in uniform are doing in Afghanistan.” ” — Ari&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wait a minute. I thought strafing and killing, er strafin’ &amp; killin’ innocent civilians was what the Republicans were in favor of.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is so confusing. First they’re yelling, “kill kill kill” or “kill baby kill” and then it’s all, “no no, we don’t do that”. Is there no rhyme or reason to the McCain campaign.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>” “[Obama] said, too, that our troops in Afghanistan are ‘air raiding villages and killing civilians,’” Palin said, mischaracterizing a 2007 remark by Obama. “I hope Americans know that is not what our brave men and women in uniform are doing in Afghanistan.” ” — Ari</p>
<p>Wait a minute. I thought strafing and killing, er strafin’ &amp; killin’ innocent civilians was what the Republicans were in favor of.</p>
<p>This is so confusing. First they’re yelling, “kill kill kill” or “kill baby kill” and then it’s all, “no no, we don’t do that”. Is there no rhyme or reason to the McCain campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: naugiedoggie</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3250</link>
		<dc:creator>naugiedoggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t see anything in the discussion or comments that refutes Yglesias’ statement.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama has made more than a few exaggerated or false claims about McCain and his policies.  Are you willing to concede that such false claims mean that Obama is also going to tend to a equal degree of dishonesty as President?  Probably not.  To do so would mean rejecting the Obama candidacy as fundamentally untrustworthy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What exactly is gained by &lt;em&gt;blaming&lt;/em&gt; the candidate for offensive messages delivered on behalf of his campaign?  Assigning blame has long struck me as among the most useless of idle human activities.  Most certainly, it has nothing to do with holding an individual responsible for his or her own actions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;mp&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t see anything in the discussion or comments that refutes Yglesias’ statement.  </p>
<p>Obama has made more than a few exaggerated or false claims about McCain and his policies.  Are you willing to concede that such false claims mean that Obama is also going to tend to a equal degree of dishonesty as President?  Probably not.  To do so would mean rejecting the Obama candidacy as fundamentally untrustworthy.</p>
<p>What exactly is gained by <em>blaming</em> the candidate for offensive messages delivered on behalf of his campaign?  Assigning blame has long struck me as among the most useless of idle human activities.  Most certainly, it has nothing to do with holding an individual responsible for his or her own actions.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>mp</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3217</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;are there any *smart* racists?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I know it’s past tense but … the Nazis. The KKK; many politicians were in the KKK like Robert Bird, and judges, lawyers, doctors, engineers …etc    &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not admirable, but many highly intelligent people took part in mass murder and/or hate crimes&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>are there any *smart* racists?</p>
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<p>I know it’s past tense but … the Nazis. The KKK; many politicians were in the KKK like Robert Bird, and judges, lawyers, doctors, engineers …etc    </p>
<p>Not admirable, but many highly intelligent people took part in mass murder and/or hate crimes</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3213</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh God -&lt;br /&gt;
I have turn it off. They are telling Liberals to read the Constitution.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And now we’re going to go after minorities and mortgages.&lt;br /&gt;
That’s it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God -<br />
I have turn it off. They are telling Liberals to read the Constitution.</p>
<p>And now we’re going to go after minorities and mortgages.<br />
That’s it.</p>
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		<title>By: NorskeFlamethrower</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3212</link>
		<dc:creator>NorskeFlamethrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1,789 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Citizen Ari and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This election is gunna give America the chance ta not only remake the economy and restore some semblance of constitutional governance but to discredit and isolate fascism in our politics and maybe put a big crack in the oligarchy that has bled our country and the world almost dry lo these last 148 years.  To accomplish this, however, an Obama administration must: purge the Democratic Party leadership of all corporatists, use the first 100 days to implement a new “New Deal” that includes reducing the FICA tax and removing the cap entirely, eliminating the Bush tax cuts for those over $250,000 and adding at least 3 more brackets above $1million to a top of 75%.  Beyond this, the Obama Justice Department must include an Office of Special Prosecutor that includes specifically instructed prosecutors to investigate war profiteering and possible RICO violations by companies and trusts that include Haliburton, Brown and Root, the Carlyle Group and the families of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. The Special Prosecutors should also be tasked to investigate the lead up to the war in Iraq and the exposure of Valery Plame and there must be a Special Prosecutor to investigate violations of the Voting Rights Act and other statutes pertaining to the stealing of the elections in 2000 and 2004 regardless of the statute of limitations.  These Justice Department Special Prosecutors could initiate our own American version of the “truth and reconcilliation” process carried out in South Africa with mandates from the Attny. Gen to issue written reports at the conclusion of the investigations.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If we do these things I think we can get ourselves out from under the iron boot of our oligarchy and leave our children to pay the debt of our retirements and funerals and not the ongoing satisfaction of the appetites of the children of wealth and priviledge.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITOON, AND REMEMBER THAT FASCISTS WON’T GO AWAY BY THEMSELVES…JEST ASK THE GERMANS!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,789 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…</p>
<p>Citizen Ari and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:</p>
<p>This election is gunna give America the chance ta not only remake the economy and restore some semblance of constitutional governance but to discredit and isolate fascism in our politics and maybe put a big crack in the oligarchy that has bled our country and the world almost dry lo these last 148 years.  To accomplish this, however, an Obama administration must: purge the Democratic Party leadership of all corporatists, use the first 100 days to implement a new “New Deal” that includes reducing the FICA tax and removing the cap entirely, eliminating the Bush tax cuts for those over $250,000 and adding at least 3 more brackets above $1million to a top of 75%.  Beyond this, the Obama Justice Department must include an Office of Special Prosecutor that includes specifically instructed prosecutors to investigate war profiteering and possible RICO violations by companies and trusts that include Haliburton, Brown and Root, the Carlyle Group and the families of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld. The Special Prosecutors should also be tasked to investigate the lead up to the war in Iraq and the exposure of Valery Plame and there must be a Special Prosecutor to investigate violations of the Voting Rights Act and other statutes pertaining to the stealing of the elections in 2000 and 2004 regardless of the statute of limitations.  These Justice Department Special Prosecutors could initiate our own American version of the “truth and reconcilliation” process carried out in South Africa with mandates from the Attny. Gen to issue written reports at the conclusion of the investigations.</p>
<p>If we do these things I think we can get ourselves out from under the iron boot of our oligarchy and leave our children to pay the debt of our retirements and funerals and not the ongoing satisfaction of the appetites of the children of wealth and priviledge.</p>
<p>KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITOON, AND REMEMBER THAT FASCISTS WON’T GO AWAY BY THEMSELVES…JEST ASK THE GERMANS!!!</p>
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		<title>By: whataretheysmoking</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3210</link>
		<dc:creator>whataretheysmoking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And why are you even engaging with this numbskull Yglesias?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why are you even engaging with this numbskull Yglesias?</p>
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		<title>By: Waccamaw</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3208</link>
		<dc:creator>Waccamaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, that raises the question: are there any *smart* racists? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Certainly not in the sense that those of us who populate the Lake understand the term.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that raises the question: are there any *smart* racists? </p>
<p>Certainly not in the sense that those of us who populate the Lake understand the term.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3207</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/central-banks-in-a-cold-sweat-panic-cut-rates-and-their-own-throats/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Ian up over at the Mothership&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/08/central-banks-in-a-cold-sweat-panic-cut-rates-and-their-own-throats/" rel="nofollow">New Ian up over at the Mothership</a></p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3206</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good point is McCain trying to hold the south and the west for the GOP to prevent the GOP from losing the Senate Filibuster?&lt;br /&gt;
     Going racists might have worked…before the dow crashed and the banks got a bailout.&lt;br /&gt;
    Lower incomes in the south and west however should force people to choose with their pocket book and Dems are trusted way more on the economy.&lt;br /&gt;
   Hate is a luxury that fewer and fewer people can afford thanks to Bush.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point is McCain trying to hold the south and the west for the GOP to prevent the GOP from losing the Senate Filibuster?<br />
     Going racists might have worked…before the dow crashed and the banks got a bailout.<br />
    Lower incomes in the south and west however should force people to choose with their pocket book and Dems are trusted way more on the economy.<br />
   Hate is a luxury that fewer and fewer people can afford thanks to Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Boston1775</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/551/comment-page-1#comment-3205</link>
		<dc:creator>Boston1775</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;These people own this stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
There are tapes of what they say day after day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people own this stuff.<br />
There are tapes of what they say day after day.</p>
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