Comments on: My Four Days in Wichita

By: libbyliberal

libbyliberal — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:57:05 +0000

RevDeb, thank you for this. Thanks for your service to the cause, too!

By: ThingsComeUndone

ThingsComeUndone — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:46:52 +0000

This is a great diary!

By: Pfifferling

Pfifferling — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:35:42 +0000

{{{RevDeb}}} Thank you.

By: Mauimom

Mauimom — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:28:21 +0000

the fact is, Teddy that 87% of counties in the US of A don’t have providers. There’s ONE in all of MS. Abortion may be legal but it surely isn’t available. The reich wing has seen to that.

Rachel had a very good piece today on this very issue: why bother to “outlaw” abortion when they [anti-abortion crowd] can just make it impossible to obtain.

By: Mauimom

Mauimom — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:19:21 +0000

There is NO information in the media about the circumstances behind these sad choices. My heart has been heavy with grief at the killing of this wonderful doctor.

I just wrote an e-mail to Rachel Maddow suggesting that she do a story on this very subject. O’Reilly et al. paint a picture of flaky women deciding “on a whim” that they don’t want to have a child. In fact, the picture is far different, and it needs to be told: conjoined twins, one of whom has died and the other of whom won’t survive; babies without faces and/or brains, who won’t survive; fetuses with multiple severe abnormalities.

Until the true picture of the circumstances that produce the need for this procedure are presented, the discussion will volley between the Bill O’Reilly “baby killer” crap and the “now, now dear” sentiments of Obama et al. who “want to reduce the need for abortion” [i.e., more/better birth control; increased adoption].

The circumstances that cause a woman to seek a late term abortion will NOT be remedied by birth control or adoption. This is surgical procedure that is the business of no one except the woman and her doctor.

Rev Deb, I urge you to write to Rachel [Rachel@msnbc.com] with your story.

By: Granny3

Granny3 — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:11:32 +0000

I wish there was more info. out there on why woman have “late term” abortions. Our daughter tried four years to conceive. She had a high tech ultra sound at a state of the art office in Beverly Hills. The equipment was more advanced than the knowledge of the M.D.s how to interpret the readings. They told her the fetus showed ominous readings and might need to be terminated. She and her husband had genetic tests. The wait for the result of those tests seemed an eternity. My daughter cried for days waiting. Bottem line, all was well. We have a wonderful grandson, starting college in Sept. with a full scholarship at a private university.
RevDeb, please let people know how difficult these very personal decisions are.
There is NO information in the media about the circumstances behind these sad choices. My heart has been heavy with grief at the killing of this wonderful doctor.

By: RevDeb

RevDeb — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:49:46 +0000

the problem with the Bible is that you can use it to “prove” anything you want. It just won’t work on those people. They believe what they want to believe and hear what they want to hear. We are similar in that but most of us are open to hearing opposing viewpoints.

I’m just worn out at this point. Tomorrow is another day.

By: becca656

becca656 — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:45:02 +0000

I’d say I’m right behind you, but after reading some of the stuff from O’Reilly and Malkin, I want to step up to the front, please, and tell these people to open their unread Bibles and read the 10 commandments and Beatitudes (may’s well direct them to both the old and new testaments) and ask them to use either of those to justify the assassin’s actions.

By: RevDeb

RevDeb — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:40:21 +0000

per Lakoff people are hard wired to hear what they want to hear.

Sorry about the break room. I think Keith was talking about restaurants and bars and public waiting rooms.

I am at this point numb from it all. My outrage meter is broken.

By: becca656

becca656 — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:34:08 +0000

Wonderful thought, but darned near impossible.

These folks watching O’Reilly not only are the same ones that watch Hannity and listen to Rush, but are the core folks that agree with and totally support this assassination.

Asking the core audience that watches O’Reilly to just change the channel won’t do the job.

For instance, where I’m working, Fox News is on in the breakroom. I don’t even know where the remote is, but folks watch it during their breaks and lunch. Not to mention I’m a contractor (considered a guest in the house, as it were), so I can’t make any suggestions like that.

I’m a blue-stater working in a red state, so my chances of making that difference are minimal. My boss’s boss today at lunch, for example, could only parrot that the doctor had performed 60,000 abortions, as if that were a good reason for the shooting.