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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/579/comment-page-1#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;oooohh kill whitey type of black power. got it&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the funniest bits I ever saw on t.v. (and a shocking one really) had a White guy getting a ride home with a Black friend from work. The Black guy was all ‘normal’ at work, but in the car he pops a tape in the deck (old show) and it starts in with “kill Whitey kill whitey kill Whitey” and after a while the White guy asks what the songs is called.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Black guy says with a straight face, “Justice”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It just kills. slays. knocks ‘em dead. off the wall hilarious.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sad thing is we can all imagine this really happening since we know the two separate worlds Blacks in America (so-called African Americans) have to negotiate. What do they really stand for is the big question? A guy I know said it’s always the same, when you’re with one it’s okay, but when there are two or more Blacks, then they revert to “Black culture” whatever that is and it’s all ‘yo’, ‘dog’, hate and kinda like a Palin rally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okey dokey? You betcha! Kill Traitor Kill   very sick stuff&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, what does it mean? It means we have a long way to go to resolve these differences and find some way of getting along better than we do now. Amazingly this isn’t a lot different than the crazed religion-based divisions in the Middle East and some other differences in other places.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What’s called for is tolerance in the face of anger. It isn’t easy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>oooohh kill whitey type of black power. got it</p>
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<p>One of the funniest bits I ever saw on t.v. (and a shocking one really) had a White guy getting a ride home with a Black friend from work. The Black guy was all ‘normal’ at work, but in the car he pops a tape in the deck (old show) and it starts in with “kill Whitey kill whitey kill Whitey” and after a while the White guy asks what the songs is called.</p>
<p>The Black guy says with a straight face, “Justice”</p>
<p>It just kills. slays. knocks ‘em dead. off the wall hilarious.</p>
<p>Sad thing is we can all imagine this really happening since we know the two separate worlds Blacks in America (so-called African Americans) have to negotiate. What do they really stand for is the big question? A guy I know said it’s always the same, when you’re with one it’s okay, but when there are two or more Blacks, then they revert to “Black culture” whatever that is and it’s all ‘yo’, ‘dog’, hate and kinda like a Palin rally.</p>
<p>Okey dokey? You betcha! Kill Traitor Kill   very sick stuff</p>
<p>So, what does it mean? It means we have a long way to go to resolve these differences and find some way of getting along better than we do now. Amazingly this isn’t a lot different than the crazed religion-based divisions in the Middle East and some other differences in other places.</p>
<p>What’s called for is tolerance in the face of anger. It isn’t easy.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/579/comment-page-1#comment-3696</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Kerry was the most liberal Senator in 2004 and Obama is the most liberal Senator in 2008. What an amazing coincidence!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sanders or Kerry or Kennedy or Feingold must really be ticked off to find Obama has out done them. Heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Kerry was the most liberal Senator in 2004 and Obama is the most liberal Senator in 2008. What an amazing coincidence!</p>
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<p>Sanders or Kerry or Kennedy or Feingold must really be ticked off to find Obama has out done them. Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/579/comment-page-1#comment-3686</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is kinda sick. A guy wrote a story abt the future and McSame wins the election because of a bombing at the Arch in St. Louis on Oct 31.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/3444.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonian.com/a...../3444.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is kinda sick. A guy wrote a story abt the future and McSame wins the election because of a bombing at the Arch in St. Louis on Oct 31.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/mediapolitics/3444.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonian.com/a&#8230;../3444.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/579/comment-page-1#comment-3515</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Exactly, and it all is based on the fact that Senators and Reps. who are away campaigning get “amplified” as liberals since they aren’t around voting on all the insipid little bills for National Peanut Day, or some small tribute to the “Mother of the Year”. Then the National Journal selects a set of votes that place the candidate intentionally in the “most liberal” category. And many of those votes are, as Jane points out, subjective as to why the individual voted on way or another. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably the better measure would be to take the year or two before in the National Journals ratings since then the candidates are less likely to be “fingered” by the Journal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, and it all is based on the fact that Senators and Reps. who are away campaigning get “amplified” as liberals since they aren’t around voting on all the insipid little bills for National Peanut Day, or some small tribute to the “Mother of the Year”. Then the National Journal selects a set of votes that place the candidate intentionally in the “most liberal” category. And many of those votes are, as Jane points out, subjective as to why the individual voted on way or another. </p>
<p>Probably the better measure would be to take the year or two before in the National Journals ratings since then the candidates are less likely to be “fingered” by the Journal.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Welsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Welsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If only he was the most liberal senator.  But I’ll settle for “most liberal president.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only he was the most liberal senator.  But I’ll settle for “most liberal president.”</p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/579/comment-page-1#comment-3497</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“John McCain and George W. Bush, who agree about virtually nothing, agree about Charles Colson,” Plotz wrote. In a speech, McCain “singled out Colson for praise, complimenting the Watergate felon for his prison ministry. Bush, meanwhile, has given Colson a Texas prison wing to run on Christian principles,” Plotz wrote. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How’s that again? Bush and McCain endorsed a convicted felon who once advocated bombing Washington buildings and urged using Teamsters like Gestapo thugs to beat up anti-war demonstrators? How can McCain forgive Charles Colson and praise his later commendable works when he will not do the same for Ayers? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;McCain has also lauded (”I’m proud of you!”) right-wing broadcaster G. Gordon Liddy, a man convicted for his mastermind role in the burglary of the Democratic National Committee in the Watergate, and for which he served four years in prison. According to Huffington Post, Liddy hosted a fund-raiser for McCain and chipped in a few thousand bucks of his own. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the McCain camp tends to be a little short on forgiveness and long on hatred, we need to ask which religion it is they happen to be practicing. Christian forgiveness, by their lights, seemingly only pertains to Republicans—especially those guilty of espionage against Democrats. Somebody explain it to me. Isn’t it the zenith of hypocrisy for McCain to boast of his associations with Colson and Liddy while his running mate damns Obama for associating with Ayers? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sherwood Ross is a Miami-based writer who has worked for major dailies, wire services, news magazines, and civil rights groups. Reach him at &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:sherwoodr1@yahoo.com.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sherwoodr1@yahoo.com.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“John McCain and George W. Bush, who agree about virtually nothing, agree about Charles Colson,” Plotz wrote. In a speech, McCain “singled out Colson for praise, complimenting the Watergate felon for his prison ministry. Bush, meanwhile, has given Colson a Texas prison wing to run on Christian principles,” Plotz wrote. </p>
<p>How’s that again? Bush and McCain endorsed a convicted felon who once advocated bombing Washington buildings and urged using Teamsters like Gestapo thugs to beat up anti-war demonstrators? How can McCain forgive Charles Colson and praise his later commendable works when he will not do the same for Ayers? </p>
<p>McCain has also lauded (”I’m proud of you!”) right-wing broadcaster G. Gordon Liddy, a man convicted for his mastermind role in the burglary of the Democratic National Committee in the Watergate, and for which he served four years in prison. According to Huffington Post, Liddy hosted a fund-raiser for McCain and chipped in a few thousand bucks of his own. </p>
<p>If the McCain camp tends to be a little short on forgiveness and long on hatred, we need to ask which religion it is they happen to be practicing. Christian forgiveness, by their lights, seemingly only pertains to Republicans—especially those guilty of espionage against Democrats. Somebody explain it to me. Isn’t it the zenith of hypocrisy for McCain to boast of his associations with Colson and Liddy while his running mate damns Obama for associating with Ayers? </p>
<p>Sherwood Ross is a Miami-based writer who has worked for major dailies, wire services, news magazines, and civil rights groups. Reach him at <a href="mailto:sherwoodr1@yahoo.com." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="mailto:sherwoodr1@yahoo.com">sherwoodr1@yahoo.com</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson" rel="nofollow">http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Charles (Chuck) Wendell Colson (born October 16, 1931, in Boston, Massachusetts) was the chief counsel for President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973 and while he was commonly named as one of the Watergate Seven, he was never charged with, or prosecuted, for any crime related to the Watergate break-in or its cover-up. After extensively investigating Colson’s activities relating to Watergate, Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski attempted to make a deal with Colson in which Colson would agree to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge relating to Watergate, in exchange for which Jaworski agreed to recommend that he not be sentenced to prison. Colson felt doing so would be pleading guilty to a crime he did not commit. Instead, Colson counter-offered. Colson told Jaworski that he would agree to plead guilty to the crime of obstruction of justice, not in relation to Watergate, but in relation to the planning of the break-in at the office of Daniel Elsberg’s psychiatrist. This was a crime of which Jaworski had no knowledge. Colson insisted also that Jaworski would not be constrained to recommend no prison time. At the sentencing, Judge Sirica sentenced Colson to the maximum prison term permitted under federal law. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles (Chuck) Wendell Colson (born October 16, 1931, in Boston, Massachusetts) was the chief counsel for President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973 and while he was commonly named as one of the Watergate Seven, he was never charged with, or prosecuted, for any crime related to the Watergate break-in or its cover-up. After extensively investigating Colson’s activities relating to Watergate, Special Prosecutor Leon Jaworski attempted to make a deal with Colson in which Colson would agree to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge relating to Watergate, in exchange for which Jaworski agreed to recommend that he not be sentenced to prison. Colson felt doing so would be pleading guilty to a crime he did not commit. Instead, Colson counter-offered. Colson told Jaworski that he would agree to plead guilty to the crime of obstruction of justice, not in relation to Watergate, but in relation to the planning of the break-in at the office of Daniel Elsberg’s psychiatrist. This was a crime of which Jaworski had no knowledge. Colson insisted also that Jaworski would not be constrained to recommend no prison time. At the sentencing, Judge Sirica sentenced Colson to the maximum prison term permitted under federal law. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson" rel="nofollow">http://www.daylife.com/topic/Charles_Colson</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/579/comment-page-1#comment-3490</link>
		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More on Chuck Colson &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Recent popular books by atheist authors have spawned a new generation of Christian apologists. The latest rebuttal is “The Faith: What Christians Believe, Why They Believe It and Why It Matters,” by Chuck Colson, the convicted Watergate felon turned prison reformer. Colson was Nixon’s special counsel, a man so ruthless that, according to legend, he once said he’d kill his own grandmother for his boss; now he argues on behalf of Jesus. He spoke with NEWSWEEK’s Lisa Miller.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsweek.com/id/114734&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.newsweek.com/id/114734&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on Chuck Colson </p>
<blockquote><p>Recent popular books by atheist authors have spawned a new generation of Christian apologists. The latest rebuttal is “The Faith: What Christians Believe, Why They Believe It and Why It Matters,” by Chuck Colson, the convicted Watergate felon turned prison reformer. Colson was Nixon’s special counsel, a man so ruthless that, according to legend, he once said he’d kill his own grandmother for his boss; now he argues on behalf of Jesus. He spoke with NEWSWEEK’s Lisa Miller.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.newsweek.com/id/114734" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsweek.com/id/114734</a></p>
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		<title>By: sunshine</title>
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		<dc:creator>sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;McSame has his felony buddies. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;John McCain and George W. Bush, who agree about virtually nothing, agree about Charles Colson. In his speech lambasting Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and the “agents of intolerance,” McCain singled out Colson for praise, complimenting the Watergate felon for his prison ministry. Bush, meanwhile, has given Colson a Texas prison wing to run on Christian principles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/77067/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slate.com/id/77067/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McSame has his felony buddies. </p>
<blockquote><p>John McCain and George W. Bush, who agree about virtually nothing, agree about Charles Colson. In his speech lambasting Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, and the “agents of intolerance,” McCain singled out Colson for praise, complimenting the Watergate felon for his prison ministry. Bush, meanwhile, has given Colson a Texas prison wing to run on Christian principles.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/77067/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/77067/</a></p>
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		<title>By: foothillsmike</title>
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		<dc:creator>foothillsmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Especially when they are wearing those white sheets&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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