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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50334</link>
		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nice essay, Ann.  We all have health that needs care.  Give the people what they want.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice essay, Ann.  We all have health that needs care.  Give the people what they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50283</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you so much!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Ann in AZ</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50282</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann in AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Katymine, I had a similar situation when I applied for disability due to emphysema.  Then, once I applied, I got sick and had to go to the emergency room.  Once there, they discovered that my problem was not just COPD; I needed a quadruple heart bypass, and the doctors refused to let me out of the hospital until I got one.  Since I had no insurance, they gave me the forms for AHCCCS.  Hopefully, you can get the medical help you need and Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System can help you to pay for it.  Hope you’re doing better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S.  After I received my first disability check, when it came time to renew AHCCCS, I was over income.  So I talked to the people at AHCCCS and asked what I was to do?  Without any insurance, I couldn’t even go to the emergency room if I got sick again.  They said that was not the case; if my bill was higher than (they gave me some mathmatical formula that I can no longer remember) they could still help me.  Indeed I did have an incident wherein I needed to go to the emergency room, and that gave me another 6 months of AHCCCS.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katymine, I had a similar situation when I applied for disability due to emphysema.  Then, once I applied, I got sick and had to go to the emergency room.  Once there, they discovered that my problem was not just COPD; I needed a quadruple heart bypass, and the doctors refused to let me out of the hospital until I got one.  Since I had no insurance, they gave me the forms for AHCCCS.  Hopefully, you can get the medical help you need and Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System can help you to pay for it.  Hope you’re doing better.</p>
<p>P.S.  After I received my first disability check, when it came time to renew AHCCCS, I was over income.  So I talked to the people at AHCCCS and asked what I was to do?  Without any insurance, I couldn’t even go to the emergency room if I got sick again.  They said that was not the case; if my bill was higher than (they gave me some mathmatical formula that I can no longer remember) they could still help me.  Indeed I did have an incident wherein I needed to go to the emergency room, and that gave me another 6 months of AHCCCS.</p>
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		<title>By: unionave</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50281</link>
		<dc:creator>unionave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Something never mentioned is that Social Security is an annuity . One of the many WallSreet Bank inventions is an annuity which they peddle to lay hands on more of our retirement money . WallStreet Bank annuity programs all  charge management fees with  CEO’s drawing large salaries . Medicare is a health insurance program that does exactly the same thing that the Blue’s and other insurance companies do . If you are over 65 and take your Medicare card to the hospital when you are ill the hospital will give your insurance the same treatment they give to all insurance’s . Give it the old drain as much as possible treatment . Some of the CEO’s in the private insurance companies have salaries amounting to Billions of dollars . The CEO has a staff that is paid very well also . Medicare managers and staff receive a fraction of what the private insurance company managers receive . Medicare started around the time of our President LBJ and our President RR did everything he could to kill it . He called it “socialism” . As the writer of this article points out we are in “serious trouble” largely because of health care costs and the insurance companies will be dead if we adopt a universal Medicare type of health care program for all . We are now finding out that our Congress is not our Congress for the people . Our Congress accepted checks handed out on the floor of Congress and watched as the insurance companies put us in this situation . Now it’s us dead or them dead .&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something never mentioned is that Social Security is an annuity . One of the many WallSreet Bank inventions is an annuity which they peddle to lay hands on more of our retirement money . WallStreet Bank annuity programs all  charge management fees with  CEO’s drawing large salaries . Medicare is a health insurance program that does exactly the same thing that the Blue’s and other insurance companies do . If you are over 65 and take your Medicare card to the hospital when you are ill the hospital will give your insurance the same treatment they give to all insurance’s . Give it the old drain as much as possible treatment . Some of the CEO’s in the private insurance companies have salaries amounting to Billions of dollars . The CEO has a staff that is paid very well also . Medicare managers and staff receive a fraction of what the private insurance company managers receive . Medicare started around the time of our President LBJ and our President RR did everything he could to kill it . He called it “socialism” . As the writer of this article points out we are in “serious trouble” largely because of health care costs and the insurance companies will be dead if we adopt a universal Medicare type of health care program for all . We are now finding out that our Congress is not our Congress for the people . Our Congress accepted checks handed out on the floor of Congress and watched as the insurance companies put us in this situation . Now it’s us dead or them dead .</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50279</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excellent points!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50278</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The military and defense of the nation are in the Constitution — because it’s just that important. Health care isn’t in there because the founders didn’t see things the same as we do today. They had real snakes. We just have lobbyists.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The military and defense of the nation are in the Constitution — because it’s just that important. Health care isn’t in there because the founders didn’t see things the same as we do today. They had real snakes. We just have lobbyists.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50277</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;“Folks” is condescending.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really? How so? Obama uses it all the time and I never get that anybody is offended.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“Folks” is condescending.</p>
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<p>Really? How so? Obama uses it all the time and I never get that anybody is offended.</p>
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		<title>By: marchan1940</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50257</link>
		<dc:creator>marchan1940</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;More on Sen. Jeff Bingaman&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The HELP Committee on Wednesday morning will begin consideration of The &lt;strong&gt;Affordable Health Choices Act&lt;/strong&gt; – a measure aimed at reducing health care costs, protecting choice and guaranteeing quality. Nurses, medical students, and individuals with first-hand experience joined Bingaman and his colleagues at a Capitol Hill news conference in support of reforming our broken health care system.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bingaman is also a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is the other Senate committee that has jurisdiction over health care reform. Bingaman is the only Democratic senator of the HELP and Finance committees. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on Sen. Jeff Bingaman</p>
<p>The HELP Committee on Wednesday morning will begin consideration of The <strong>Affordable Health Choices Act</strong> – a measure aimed at reducing health care costs, protecting choice and guaranteeing quality. Nurses, medical students, and individuals with first-hand experience joined Bingaman and his colleagues at a Capitol Hill news conference in support of reforming our broken health care system.</p>
<p><strong>Bingaman is also a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is the other Senate committee that has jurisdiction over health care reform. Bingaman is the only Democratic senator of the HELP and Finance committees. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: marchan1940</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50255</link>
		<dc:creator>marchan1940</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Giving people what they want&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d sent an email to a HELP committee member urging that “public option” must be in the package, whatever.  Have gotten two or three responses from folks I’d no idea was on the committee.  One was Sen. Jeff Bingamon from New Mexico (I’m a former New Mexican, so that interested me), which referenced his site &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bingaman.gov/news&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.bingaman.gov/news&lt;/a&gt; and found two press releases about what he’s doing for the reform cause otherwise which I found very interesting and FDL folks need to know about.  He’s taken on a some needed smaller pieces of the huge issue; while I’ve no idea if the donut hole issues is being addressed in the other vehicles being considered, I was rather impressed, although I’m sure that it needs to be part of the whole package.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;, Bingamon Bill to Help Low-Income Seniors Pay for Medications&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  This bill (Helping Fix the RX Gap Act of 2009) corrects for the donut hole under Medicare D in which medication assistance ends once a recipient reaches $2700 in benefits and then can’t access benefits again until after paying the next $3,454.  Bingaman proposes to cover the hole with credit from other federal health programs, Pharma assistance programs, and safety-net hospital med coverage.&lt;br /&gt;
My hunch this would not solve all the problems related to the donut hole, but God knows that it could be part of an answer to the donut hole for which a whole lot of seniors have wanted an answer.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The second bill is Medicare Quality and Payment Reform Act of 2009 &lt;br /&gt;
The requirements are rather interesting and have been reflected in the MedPAC, Commonwealth and other entities.  The three main components are as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Provide a report on readmission rates and resource use to Medicare providers’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Establish benchmarks based upon these data, that over time,w ill be used to adjust Medicare payments.  In analyzing payment levels and determining what tests and treatments are appropriate, HHS must take into account the overall health status of the patient or other factors that influence health care needs.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Institute a voluntary pilot program, which would replace the current fee-for-service payment system with bundled payments for certain high cost and high volume services.  These payments would encompass the cost of an entire patient care episode over a set period of time (e.g. 30 days)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The goals are to lower costs and improve overall quality.  Some of the terms have been referenced in recent posts and comments and while I suspect these proposed provisions are not enough, but they are a start and specifically address badly needed Medicare related issues.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, lacking a universal single payer system, Medicare problems must be addressed within that framework if not in other proposals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Blessings and thanks to all for being part of our education on these broader issues,&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong></strong>Giving people what they want<strong></strong></p>
<p>I’d sent an email to a HELP committee member urging that “public option” must be in the package, whatever.  Have gotten two or three responses from folks I’d no idea was on the committee.  One was Sen. Jeff Bingamon from New Mexico (I’m a former New Mexican, so that interested me), which referenced his site <a href="http://www.bingaman.gov/news" rel="nofollow">http://www.bingaman.gov/news</a> and found two press releases about what he’s doing for the reform cause otherwise which I found very interesting and FDL folks need to know about.  He’s taken on a some needed smaller pieces of the huge issue; while I’ve no idea if the donut hole issues is being addressed in the other vehicles being considered, I was rather impressed, although I’m sure that it needs to be part of the whole package.</p>
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<p>, Bingamon Bill to Help Low-Income Seniors Pay for Medications</p>
<blockquote></blockquote>
<p>  This bill (Helping Fix the RX Gap Act of 2009) corrects for the donut hole under Medicare D in which medication assistance ends once a recipient reaches $2700 in benefits and then can’t access benefits again until after paying the next $3,454.  Bingaman proposes to cover the hole with credit from other federal health programs, Pharma assistance programs, and safety-net hospital med coverage.<br />
My hunch this would not solve all the problems related to the donut hole, but God knows that it could be part of an answer to the donut hole for which a whole lot of seniors have wanted an answer.  </p>
<p>The second bill is Medicare Quality and Payment Reform Act of 2009 <br />
The requirements are rather interesting and have been reflected in the MedPAC, Commonwealth and other entities.  The three main components are as follows:</p>
<blockquote></blockquote>
<p>Provide a report on readmission rates and resource use to Medicare providers’</p>
<p>Establish benchmarks based upon these data, that over time,w ill be used to adjust Medicare payments.  In analyzing payment levels and determining what tests and treatments are appropriate, HHS must take into account the overall health status of the patient or other factors that influence health care needs.  </p>
<p>Institute a voluntary pilot program, which would replace the current fee-for-service payment system with bundled payments for certain high cost and high volume services.  These payments would encompass the cost of an entire patient care episode over a set period of time (e.g. 30 days)</p>
<blockquote></blockquote>
<p>The goals are to lower costs and improve overall quality.  Some of the terms have been referenced in recent posts and comments and while I suspect these proposed provisions are not enough, but they are a start and specifically address badly needed Medicare related issues.  </p>
<p>And, lacking a universal single payer system, Medicare problems must be addressed within that framework if not in other proposals.</p>
<p>Blessings and thanks to all for being part of our education on these broader issues,</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5791/comment-page-1#comment-50248</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Praying for you katymine&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praying for you katymine</p>
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