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	<title>Comments on: GOP Sees Sanford Affair as &#8216;Isolated and Personal&#8217; &#8211; Move Along..Nuthin&#8217; to See Here&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Katherine Graham Cracker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katherine Graham Cracker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Diaper Dave&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diaper Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That’s a great list!&lt;br /&gt;
hypocrites.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s a great list!<br />
hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;h/t to Lisa for finding this list of 123 Repubs who think there are no rules (moral or otherwise)that have any meaning for them.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theopalinism.com/blog/2009/06/27/grand-ol-party-i-dont-think-this-is-what-they-meant/#comment-289&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.theopalinism.com/bl.....omment-289&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>h/t to Lisa for finding this list of 123 Repubs who think there are no rules (moral or otherwise)that have any meaning for them.<br /><a href="http://www.theopalinism.com/blog/2009/06/27/grand-ol-party-i-dont-think-this-is-what-they-meant/#comment-289" rel="nofollow">http://www.theopalinism.com/bl&#8230;..omment-289</a></p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;So it’s an isolated incident and “private”? Well except for the fact that he was using public moneys…for a “trade mission” to consummate his affair a year ago. Usually such “missions” are with others (aides and other factotums) so where were these chaperones? Did they not notice that the Gov. was running off to the cocktail lounge and smoochin’ with a local beauty? Or did he ltell them he was going to make a solo run to Buenos Aries, and then lied about all the meetings he held?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So who knew amongst the staff that the Gov. was embezzling tax-payer money?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it’s an isolated incident and “private”? Well except for the fact that he was using public moneys…for a “trade mission” to consummate his affair a year ago. Usually such “missions” are with others (aides and other factotums) so where were these chaperones? Did they not notice that the Gov. was running off to the cocktail lounge and smoochin’ with a local beauty? Or did he ltell them he was going to make a solo run to Buenos Aries, and then lied about all the meetings he held?</p>
<p>So who knew amongst the staff that the Gov. was embezzling tax-payer money?</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5992/comment-page-1#comment-52734</link>
		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sharlet recounts that incident in &lt;em&gt;The Family&lt;/em&gt;, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;These are scary people, they appear to be completely lacking in any sort of moral/ethical standard except being chosen by Jesus.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharlet recounts that incident in <em>The Family</em>, too.</p>
<p>These are scary people, they appear to be completely lacking in any sort of moral/ethical standard except being chosen by Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Shudder…sorry.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shudder…sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: TobyWollin</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5992/comment-page-1#comment-52712</link>
		<dc:creator>TobyWollin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bingo - just another version of IOKIYAR, right? Rules are for other people to have to follow - not for me, nosiree!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo &#8211; just another version of IOKIYAR, right? Rules are for other people to have to follow &#8211; not for me, nosiree!</p>
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		<title>By: parsnip</title>
		<link>http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/5992/comment-page-1#comment-52710</link>
		<dc:creator>parsnip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I found this reference to King David in an interview with Jeff Sharlet. I think it explains why Sanford doesn’t feel the need to resign, and feels the entitlement to do what he wishes with total disregard to his duties and family. And also why the GOP brushes off hypocrisy:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lindsay Beyerstein: The Family has some strange ideas about what it means to be chosen by God. Tell me about the incident in the book when Doug Coe’s son, David Coe, dropped by Ivanwald to give the brothers instruction on chosenness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/87665/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Sharlet&lt;/a&gt;: David Coe used to be the heir apparent in the Family. He’s still involved in ministry to congressmen, and at the time he was also meeting with Hillary. He’d come around to talk to the young guys at Ivanwald to talk about his vision of Biblical leadership. One day he says to brother Beau: ”Suppose I heard you’d raped three little girls, what would I think of you?” Beau, being a human being, says, ”That I’m pretty bad?” But David Coe says: ”No, no, I wouldn’t. Because you’re chosen … like King David.”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this reference to King David in an interview with Jeff Sharlet. I think it explains why Sanford doesn’t feel the need to resign, and feels the entitlement to do what he wishes with total disregard to his duties and family. And also why the GOP brushes off hypocrisy:</p>
<blockquote><p>Lindsay Beyerstein: The Family has some strange ideas about what it means to be chosen by God. Tell me about the incident in the book when Doug Coe’s son, David Coe, dropped by Ivanwald to give the brothers instruction on chosenness.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/87665/" rel="nofollow">Jeff Sharlet</a>: David Coe used to be the heir apparent in the Family. He’s still involved in ministry to congressmen, and at the time he was also meeting with Hillary. He’d come around to talk to the young guys at Ivanwald to talk about his vision of Biblical leadership. One day he says to brother Beau: ”Suppose I heard you’d raped three little girls, what would I think of you?” Beau, being a human being, says, ”That I’m pretty bad?” But David Coe says: ”No, no, I wouldn’t. Because you’re chosen … like King David.”</p>
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		<title>By: marymccurnin</title>
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		<dc:creator>marymccurnin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Vitter. Don’t forget Vitter!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vitter. Don’t forget Vitter!</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
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		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I read those e-mails I got some insight into Mark Sanford.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you’d read the personal sections of those e-mails without the identifying stuff, you’d believe they were written by someone in their late teens/early twenties.  Someone who hasn’t had much experience with the love-drug.  Someone who is completely, head-over-heels, loopy in love and hadn’t experienced it before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reading that stuff made me grateful that I’d been through that stuff in the days before the breakup of ATT, when long-distance calls were expensive, before e-mail existed.  The stuff I wrote like that was committed to paper.  If there is a gracious god in this universe, the recipients have long since disposed of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read those e-mails I got some insight into Mark Sanford.</p>
<p>If you’d read the personal sections of those e-mails without the identifying stuff, you’d believe they were written by someone in their late teens/early twenties.  Someone who hasn’t had much experience with the love-drug.  Someone who is completely, head-over-heels, loopy in love and hadn’t experienced it before.</p>
<p>Reading that stuff made me grateful that I’d been through that stuff in the days before the breakup of ATT, when long-distance calls were expensive, before e-mail existed.  The stuff I wrote like that was committed to paper.  If there is a gracious god in this universe, the recipients have long since disposed of them.</p>
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