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On Tuesday lambert pointed out something I had not noticed: Talking Points Memo had not covered Matt Taibbi’s Rolling Stone article on Goldman Sachs, and its coverage of them has been very light in recent months. Caveats: TPM advertises itself as "Breaking News and Analysis" and it gets to decide what is news and what merits analysis; Taibbi’s article was a lengthy narrative in a magazine and not breaking news, similar to Todd Purdum’s profile of Sarah Palin in Vanity Fair this month; while a web site has nearly unlimited space to devote to news there are only so many hours in the day end workers to publish during it. There are any number of good reasons why a site like TPM would not have covered it.
It still seems a curious omission though. After all, Purdum’s article got a brief mention and link on the front page. Financial scandals are covered there, and a search on Bernie Madoff brings up three pages of results. Like Martha Stewart before him Madoff seems to have become a synecdoche for the entire financial industry. Now, Stewart’s crime was a half million dollar stock scam whereas Madoff’s was a $50 billion Ponzi scheme, so the latter had a much larger impact. Still, it A) only affected private investors and B) is relatively small when compared to bailout, son of bailout and who knows what other giveaways we are only vaguely aware of at the moment. It seems that an article like Taibbi’s would serve an important reminder as to what the stakes and who the biggest players really are.
Maybe some of the president’s supporters prefer to turn a blind eye towards a scathing indictment of a company whose employees have lavishly funded the president and with whom he appears to enjoy a warm relationship. If so it is troubling. I am somewhat sympathetic to the view of politics as team sport. We have a long tradition of a two party system and it is easy to see them as opponents on a playing field. You don’t harshly criticize your captain any more than you would take a shot at your own goal. That is what the opposition is for, and if it is not willing or able to do so then you are under no obligation to help them out. As Bobby Bowden once told Lou Holtz after a lopsided win, "it’s your job to keep the score down, not mine."
Taking that approach may not be in the left’s ultimate interest though. For one, it moves the dialog closer to the whole "who won the week?" mentality – where policy is trumped by process – that progressives found so objectionable during the Bush years. If they embrace it now that Democrats are in control they will lose the chance to distinguish themselves from conservatives in any substantial way. That not only opens the door for Republicans to come back once the political winds shift but it sets liberals up to be regarded with the same deep distrust that has put the GOP in such a hole at the moment.
Strict obedience to the president did not serve conservatives well in another way: Because they never allowed a vibrant opposition from the right to develop they became hitched to Bush and had no ideas to offer once he left. When you tie your fate so closely to a leader and the leader becomes deeply unpopular you become, well, the Republican party circa 2009. Instead of simple triumphalism liberals should see the current disarray on the right as a cautionary tale. George Bush looked unassailably popular not too long ago and supporting him without reservation seemed to be the surest bet in politics; couldn’t that apply to Barack Obama too?
As a liberal, what bothers me most about what looks like an unseemly deference towards the president from the left is my belief that we are (or should be) more adversarial towards those in power. The idea of nearly automatic reverence for those in authority – what Taibbi called the peasant mentality – is an inheritance from conservatives. Seeing the press corps stand at attention (via) when the president walks in, or military trappings attending him (as Avedon points out – and we can never be told often enough – "The President of the United States is a civilian. You don’t salute him. Ever. Even if you are in the military."), or what Glenn Greenwald rightly called creepy assertions that we are obligated to fall in line behind the president simply because he is the president: all of that should rouse the authority-hating impulse of the left.





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totally agree, I believe obama is not learning fast enough for us to give him any grace, he made a huge mistake getting the dems to vote for free money to banks before he won the election, he saw (as we warned) that was a huge mistake, he then gave them even more of our money
we elected him to bring back the constitution yet he continues defending the depraved policies of bush and the shear disregard for the constitution
I believe we need to hold his feet to the fire even more then bush if we are to save this country from the abyss it’s been falling into since reagan
Thanks perris. Appreciate the kind words.
this may be one of the most despairing times we’ve ever lived through–other progressive friends of mine privately tell me. After all our rage and grief over Bush’s War, the man whom Democrats fought to elect plunged his into another huge abyss. After all the chatter about the working poor from Hillary–and even about poverty from John Edwards–Obama caters to wall street and lets GM outsource. His cabinet offers us almost nothing, except Hilda Solis, and he has yet to work for EFCA despite the fact that mammoth unions switched to support him. He’s turning his back on reproductive rights by weasel words about lessening abortion. We are stuck stuck stuck. There will be no primary opponent–will there?
Short answer to your question: yes
I agree with laurenc that this is a particularly despairing time. When Bush was prez, everyone knew what an a-hole he was; folks rallied to work against him.
With Obama, the words are sweet, and the photo-ops are many. There’s a whole corps of bots who believe he can do no wrong, and excuse his every lack of action with “he’s only been in office 6 months.”
And in addition to there being no one to primary him, he + Rahm are batting down all opponents to the Blue Dogs and their latest Valentine, Specter.
This is bad.
Like Bill Maher said “he’s your president, not your boyfriend!”
I don’t think we have HAD a real president since Nixon..maybe Carter and they sure smacked him down for his clean energy ideas. All the rest, including O have been /are puppets of the military industrial complex.
Now, I’m going over to a friend’s to celebrate Independence Day ( I call it War Day) and try to keep my mouth shut unless somebody wants to know something I know.
Obama has just gone past his Friedman Unit.
Very nice, Danps.
The peasant mentality isn’t in our best interest, no matter which “side” the current nobility supposedly represents.
FunnyWheelieDiva
The part of the left that I sit in has been critical of Obama for nearly a year now. Obama talks like a liberal and acts like a conservative. He does the first because he is a politician. He does the second because that is who he really is.
The other excuse for all of Obama’s bad moves is that he is playing seven dimensional chess.
This reasoning has born no fruit. Everything Obama has done thus far has in effect maintained the status quo which is very bad by any reasonable measure.
No significant change that can be believed in. Anything that he changed in any meaningful way he has back pedalled away from except for the tax on cigarettes. (albeit an excellent move IMHO.)
To: President Obama,
You told us you wanted to be pushed, we’re pushing, what’s with the pushing back?
“the press corps stands at attention when he walks in” sadly, he should stand at attention when we walk in, we are after all his employers. Reagan turned all that on it’s head in a big way and thus began the rule of the Imperial President.
Sadly, it’s never going to end. There are too many sycophants and yahoos in government to allow that to happen. Oh, and what Ian said…
Duoh but of course!! We got him elected and We need to keep his feet to the fire so we get a Government for the people and not for the rich bastards who continue to Game the system!!
Yes the left is being too easy on Obama. Moveon.org should continue its ad campaign against blue dogs. Blue Dogs against a strong public option available to all citizens on day one, are not belong in the Democratic party. We need Representatives like Landrieu and Lieberman like we need a war with North Korea.
We need Representatives like Landrieu and Lieberman like we need a war with North Korea.
I feel that it’s wrong to compare elected representatives to a charter member of the “Axis of Evil”.
I fell like maybe a more proper comparison to Landrieu and Lieberman would be something like, ummm, herpes?
P.S. I’m just bullshitting, compare ‘em to whomever ya want…
Ordinary citizens gave Obama hundreds of millions of dollars, but it wasn’t enough. Ordinary citizens gave millions to progressive candidates, but apparently not enough to get support on core issues.
It isn’t the money. It’s that none of the people we supported have the guts to stand up and fight for real change if it will inconvenience the really rich people they love.
Good thing, too, otherwise people might think Ameruhkuh is a warlike nation.
We’re not warlike. We renamed the former Department of War the Department of Defense. In the fifties they always taught us in school that Ameruhkuh doesn’t start wars, we only defend ourselves. Kassandra calls it “War Day”, well maybe she should call it “Defense Day” because we only fight in self defense.
And our national anthem is not about war, it’s really about people shooting off fireworks.
We’re not warlike. Got that?
We need Senators like Landrieu and Lieberman like we need a health care system that has the highest per capita cost per patient and ranks 37th in the world while leaving 47 million uninsured and twice as many under-covered.
That’s how bad we need them.
p.s. Until we have campaigns financed by the public and cutting out the oligarchy not much is gonna change. Focus people, focus.
Let’s see, in one thread today I read “fuck him” and he was called a traitor. Sound more like a teabag party but that’s “holding his feet to the fire” huh?
It’s one thing to use derogative statements and another..
I agree sometimes it is hard to distinguish between extreme views as to whether they come from the left or right.
The one lesson I have learned from Obama is his “…you can disagree and still be respectful” but having said that I’ll be damed if I let him push me or anyone around when his actions contradict with his words.
Oh no, the left is way smarter than these dummies on the right, just ask em.
So appreciated your post! Recommend folks go to Bill Moyers show last night and listen to the three Christian theologians talking about the need for a prophetic stance and action among progressives. Totally marvelous for folks who are prophetic style Christians to their bones.
Blessings,
Danps,
Do you consider Lambert to be a neutral observer? He refers to Josh Marshall using the initials WKJM (Whoever Kidnapped Josh Marshall). That was largely due to an oblique Hillary Clinton reference in the 2008 primary that was blown up by some bloggers to suggest that Josh Marshall viewed Hillary Clinton as a castrating woman.
If you have problems with Josh Marshall, wouldn’t it be easier to ask him? I’ve found TPM to be extremely responsive. So, why not ask TPM why they didn’t cover the Taibbi article and then post the response?
No just more sympathetic to the human condition.
Oh by the way, you’re banned.
Oops sorry, wrong blog.
Boy, the local news in Atlanta has this piece on right now about these naive immigrants who are actually happy to become citizens of this horrible country. What suckers.
Er, I forget now, what’s the cost of public financing of campaigns?
A drop in the bucket compared to what we are now paying to undue the results of private financing.
Hugh said:
The part of the left that I sit in has been critical of Obama for nearly a year now. Obama talks like a liberal and acts like a conservative. He does the first because he is a politician. He does the second because that is who he really is.
That has been readily apparent to me since he started running his grass roots zombies that believe campaign…now the hope and change are high aspiration
without a champion.…The Round Table without the knights who were disinvited.
Yan also put it well today. Tey gave $15 Trillon to the corporatist and left Main street, The middle class and blue collar to fend for ourselves.
The truth is the truth, and facts are facts, regardless of who sits in the White House.
If you want mindless obedience to authority, there is a party that does that.
That’s working out so well for them, isn’t it?
Beyond that, Obama says he wants to hear contrary opinions.
Works for me…
I can’t give exact numbers public financing, but it’s really not a question of numbers. It’s really a question of do we have a system of government where the Congress serves the all the people or just the people with all the money?
All I can be sure of is it would be money well spent.
Uh Raven, I don’t know WTF you’re talking about. We’re a melting pot by nature. From my front porch I can holler at Muslims, Mexican and Macedonians and I get along with ‘em all. Don’t know what you’re driving at but it sounds snarky. I don’t do snarky this late on Independence Day. Try back tomorrow.
Nite all, nice blogging with you tonight.
when obombya looks in the mirror he sees richard bruce cheney.
Hoss, lemme know when ya complain about the lack of coverage of this.
Pure Skullduggery N NO One’s Covering It. Not FDL, NOT TMP.
Harumph.
And lemme know when yer done whining about the lack of coverage of this, Too.
15 Chapters Of The Same Truth, Deep Capture And Sibel Edmonds, Have Uttered.
Danps, when yer ready to rumble and complain of REAL issues, with facts, details, and grievences, Lemme know.
Cuz till then, yer whinin. And so is FDL.
Some one, cover this stuff.
Please. It’s spelled out, in detail. With a reality to support it all. Facts, ya know.
It’s not like it was drugs for contra’s, although we all know THATS untouchable, just ask Gary Webb.
Oh, he’s dead. Supposedly of his own hand.
OR is FDL afraid of being this far out on the limb to mess with the Powers That Be?
Hmmm?
Great post & analysis. I just want to rif a moment off of your initial comments re “where is TPM Media?” and speculating on what they consider their niche.
I am a big Josh Marshall fan, and see him as one of the most advanced in his thinking re the emergent new media and how to use it. I have marveled over the past few years as he guided his one man show into a small office of contributors, then expanded into video analysis — which, to me, is the single most critical thing the progressive media must do more of in order to connect with mainstream Americans.
What was remarkable about the past 2 years was the way Josh, on camera, made complex stories (such as Siegelman case) understandable, unknotting the twisting story lines and placing them all into context… and doing so in short video pieces where he bent the rules of strict journalism, adding his wry commentary from time to time.
But he doesn’t do this at all anymore. And the video offerings from TPM Media have devolved from these straight-forward yet insightful analytical pieces delivered thru the unique Josh Marshall lens, into (a) clip excerpts of video news from CNN, CSPAN, and the like, without commentary… and (b) the very fluffy and practically meaningless “Day in 100 seconds” compilations.
I don’t know what is going on there — and whether this reflects Josh’s desire to focus more on text blogging, or moreso if it reflects that there’s only one Josh, and not enough depth in the TPM Staff yet to enable someone else to do the daily commentary & analysis if Josh can no longer do it.
He’s a very smart guy about his new business venture, and very slowly rolls out new features and components, vs venturing off into 100 directions, a la the rapidly collapsing Huffington Post. (A few years back it seemed Arianna was really aiming to offer a funded news enterprise that could challenge the Washington Post and NYT and, over time, establish itself as a full-service news organization. That idea is now dead as somehow they chose tabloid journalism over offering a truly new alternative for daily news.)
Thus, when you mentioned your comment about TPM above, I have to ask myself, is it more a question of laying off of Obama, or more of an indication that they are no longer sure what they want to be as “TPM Media”? Is Josh busier now with his young family (if so, more power to him), or is he trying things out in kind of an open R&D experiment, then pulling the reigns in after X period of time? I really think it’s a huge mistake for Josh to abandon his “must see” video commentaries – he’s really a natural at it, just as Marcy Wheeler is too — a fact I will keep nudging her about in comments until she finally steps up to the camera and mic and picks up where she left off on the superb Libby Trial coverage via PoliticsTV.
But all in all, I hope Josh is NOT backing off of Obama. If he is, shame on him. I also hope TPM finds their center of gravity very soon… because with the continuing embarrassment of a rag the Huffington Post has turned into (with Iran reporting the EXCEPTION not the rule), there is still a gaping hole for a reliable daily news reporting organization that is free from the Conglomerate Media’s Pay to play access journalism and steno-corp mentality.
Obama needs some heat on him, and it should be turning progressively hotter the more he runs away from his campaign promises. Hah, remember the one about “Google for Government” and “full transparency”? Hah, that was an especially good one — completely AWOL now, and probably permanently so.
AltHippo, you’re right that I should have contacted TPM first to see if anyone had a response to my observation.
Lambert was a big Clinton supporter and clearly has formed a negative opinion of Marshall. That doesn’t mean all of his criticism of Marshall is unfounded; in this case I thought he made a very good point. And given the Obama administration’s closeness to the financial industry, apparent willingness to bargain away real health care reform and (most importantly) hewing to Bush’s positions on civil liberties and human rights I think it’s very helpful to have skeptical voices on the left pushing back.
Great point about the “devolution” from commentary & analysis on complex issues like Siegalman to pre-packaged CNN & CSPAN clips or daily summaries. Also:
Dear God are we witnessing the Pajamafication of TPM? (snark)
We have consistently written about all of Taibbi’s coverage of the banking crisis. His article on Goldman was based in large part on the work done by Tyler Durden, which we covered here before Taibbi’s article appeared:
http://campaignsilo.firedoglak…..us-payout/
If we haven’t gotten to the Taibbi article it’s because a) lack of bandwidth and b) we covered it in real time just like he did.
Larue, Jane can give you chapter and verse on FDL’s coverage of this stuff. I cross post to here from my site and I’ve covered Deep Capture here and Sibel Edmonds here, among other things. I encourage you to look at what I’ve written first, then letting me know if I’ve been addressing issues that are sufficiently real for you.
let’s see–15 trillion to a couple banks and when we ask where it is they won’t say, blowing the crap out of the apalachians for the coal baron’s profit, a completely corrupt financial system being made more so etc etc. Is the left being too ez? is this a trick question? Is the american left a complete 3rd string joke? i think so. It’s done and over, bunch of weak minded heartless boobs.
Maybe y’all have been too easy on him BUT NOT ME!!!!!!
If Obama’s public option turns out to be anything like some of his other ‘liberal?’ ideas then we are so bigga screwed.
Re Marshall’s non-coverage of GS, all you have to do is look at the data. For Marshall generally, see Bob Somerby. I can understand why our resident hope officers wouldn’t want to do either of those things, but that’s hardly my problem.
I would welcome a continued summary of deep capture stuff. It’s so complex — or so deliberately obfuscated — it’s hard to sort out. I think you’ve posted on it, but something of that scale needs repetition. Particularly if the same criminals are still in action and still doing the same things.
Hey! take a look at this one:Obama Urges Groups to Stop Attacks
Advocates Should Turn Attention to Promoting Legislation, President Says
Priceless!We’ve got our marching orders…straight from the top. We must be making them nervous.
Do you suppose Obama REALLY thought he could pull the wool while he continues Bush policies forever?
PS: RieszFischer @16
I sense sarcasm here…War Day is better because nobody would get Defense Day…I understand your point, however.
The mistake was anyone on the left voting for this guy of little conviction and no vision. It was never about the country or the direction it was going – he merely saw an opening … cool with all this devastation I could become the first black president. His words have always been empty. Look how much mileage he got out of opposing the Iraq war when in reality he spoke out against it – once … at an anti-war rally. If you didn’t see this coming, you weren’t paying attention. Our country was lost when he became the nominee. I see this time as a worse low point because if after 8 years of Bush all we could come away with is a Reagan clone (but he seems so nice) we’re well and truly fucked.
yes at least this blogsite remained open to all candidates during the primary…unlike huffingtpost where every blogger (interestingly almost all men: they deal with the heavy stuff while women blog on “lifestyles) declared undying fealty to Obama. Wonder what some of those men think now?
and when we will get it that a cadidate such as John Edwards (minus the mistress) would have been radically different than an Obama?
In a word yes. His catering to the banksters, lack of transparency, summers and geithner, will be his undoing. I’m just a 60 year old unemployed/uninsured liberal and I knew how bad this was in September. Last week when the unemployment numbers came out, the President called a presser to comment, for the first time, with this President, I had the feeling I had at every bush presser STFU.
I completely agree with your comment. Obama’s strengths are in timing – what Democratic nomimee could loose to McCain/Palin – and his pretty words. The novelty of a minority, well-spoken, young candidate with little record to hold against him were all pluses, in a field populated with an ex-president’s wife (no Eleanor Roosevelt there), a fatally-flawed pretty boy (Edwards) and a string of retreads such as Biden, Richardson et al.
His cadence in his speeches remind me of the play acting of a Mussolini or even a Hitler – I’m only taking about how he sets up his set-piece events NOT his character or politics. Unfortunately, the more progressives amongst us have had doubts about him for a long time, particularly given his appointments in the aftermath of the election. Rove is evil, but IMHO is correct when he talks about personnel & process.
As a result, by including people like Summers, Geithner & the Goldman crew, as Taibbi’s article illustrates, re-appointing many of the villians in the national security scene such as Gates & Brennan and throwing a few bones to the left such as Solis and the MIA Dawn Johnsen, why should we have expected anything better?
However, the recent excellent article by Paul Waldman (who knows a thing or two about Congress) on the prospects for health care reform:
http://www.prospect.org/cs/art…..are_reform
gives some room for optimism. His analysis suggests that senior democrats clearly understand that failure is NOT an option. Today’s adjacent piece by Frank Rich in the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07…..5rich.html
along with Biden’s open concern of the inadequacies of the size of the Stim., in line with Kruggman & Steglitz’s critiques of last winter, show that even Obama’s arrogance may be waning. We live in hope.
Obama makes me think the Mayans may have been right about 2012. He suckered the left (myself included) so adroitly, that even I have to stand back in breathless, reverent horror. He’s like the Nixon Hunter Thompson wrote about turned inside out. This Walking Dude is bad news, like Christopher Walken in the The Dead Zone. Bush had to be laughing his ass off flying off in Marine One, thinking about how the crowd below was getting suckered once again. “Soon it’ll be yer turn, Barry; you’ll have to be the Black Knight. Heh, black knight. That’s funny.”
What’s even more maddening is how DailyKos and other so-called non traditional media have become his co-dependent enablers. How long will it take them to wake up?
META:
Can someone explain to me how these blog postings are threaded in the chronological listing of blog entries?
This entry is from July 4th, but I do not see it in the list of postings here:
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com
What am I missing?
thank you
Are you looking for this diary, “Is the Left Being Too Easy On the President?” ?
It’s on this page.
Thank you. I’m not familiar enough with the multi-blog formats here. So why doesn’t this same entry appear at the home page — which includes listings for July 2, but not this one for July 4th?
Is it like DailyKos in that there are “front pagers” and then just “lowly diarists shunted off to the side”? I don’t get it.
This diary, “Is the Left Being Too Easy On the President?” is in the list on the right hand side of the page.
But, you’re right, if the diary has been frontpaged, like the diary “New strategies for fighting FISA and the PATRIOT Act,” it does disappear from the side listings.
Thanks, Elliot… one more question:
Do each of the FDL “blog brands” here have this dual structure like DailyKos, with Blog Entries, and then reader Diaries?
Or is this thing, Oxdown Gazette, the only place where “Diaries” exist?
And what’s with the name of this section? I guess I am either obtuse or just not well-read enough. But I think FDL has too many splinters and dilutes all of the respective brand recognitions… Thus, if this section IS the lowly Diary area, as opposed to the other featured blogger subsites like marcy’s, then why give this section such a cluttered name vs just “Diaries”.
Well, let’s see if anyone even reads this. The few times I have posted comments at FDL, if they are at the end of the day they usually are glossed over and no one ever reads stuff like that, because they’re onto the NEXT topic… Something that really irritates me about the left blogosphere where everyhting worth talking about typically has a shelf-life of 24 hours or less, then poof, the conveyor belt unloads new topics to sound off about… And in the end, very little aggregated knowledge. My biggest beef with Dkos, and why I rarely read there anymore.
la-dee-dah, it’s just me, a former media soldier for Howard Dean campaign :)
“The Oxdown Gazette was a fictional newspaper used by the National Council for the Training of Journalists for its regional and local journalism exams. Since the 1970s, trainee journalists would have to write reports on fires, floods, rail crashes and fatal accidents in the imaginary town of Oxdown. The idea was to replicate, as far as possible, the sense of local knowledge trainees would have if working for a real paper.
In the fall of 2008, the American-based online news and opinion site Fire Dog Lake (http://firedoglake.com/) resurrected the name ‘Oxdown Gazette’ and applied it to a portion of the Fire Dog Lake website, at http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/. “
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxdown_Gazette
Yes.