The New York Times has done some excellent reporting lately, particulary by David Leonhardt, on the health care reform debates. Sunday’s half-page editorial summary of the bills and issues was also excellent.
So unless this article is meant to mock Baucus’ nightmare team, it is bewildering that the Times would allow itself to be used by the Senate Finance Committee to cover for the continuing failure of the "coalition of the unwilling" to produce a proposal that isn’t an insult to the millions of Americans waiting for real reforms.
Instead of simply telling us that the Committee failed yet again to confront the problem, the Times gives us a leaked puff piece on how hard the six Senators have been working in secret not to reform America’s broken health system. And by gosh, they serve great snacks:
Last week, there were chippers — chocolate-covered potato chips — described on a sign as “North Dakota Diet Food.” More often, there are Doritos, pretzels, Oreo cookies and beef jerky: fuel to get through hours of talks on topics like the actuarial values of private insurance plans or the cost-sharing provisions of Medicare.
That’s just swell. The group’s leaks to the media have the Committee bragging about ideas that will make fewer people eligible for Medicaid, or how much money we can save by reducing subsidies to those who can’t afford health insurance, and why they don’t want an employer mandate, even though they’re designing one weaker than the House bill’s.
But maybe they’ll have the courage to tax those "Cadillac" insurance policies, because that won’t amount to much but it will look good and it will save us from having to impose a surtax on the wealthiest 1 percent to whom we’ve given so much and from whom so little is expected.
How many thousands will lose their insurance this week? But Olympia Snow and friends have bravely confronted that by insisting there will be no public plan to challenge a rogue industry that stays solvent through federal Medicare Advantage subsidies and committing fraud on people who think they’re covered until they get sick.
But who cares? When you’ve got chocolate-covered potato chips, it doesn’t matter that the proposals you’re leaking as a trial balloon just to pretend you’re working and not stalling would give the most inefficient, costly and cruel health insurance system in the modern world a larger guaranteed market with no effective competition. Chomp. Crunch.
This map shows that most areas of the country have only 1 or 2 dominant insurers locally, so wasn’t it clever of Grassley to come up with a vague, undefined co-op proposal that isn’t portable and can’t possibly challenge the mega insurers, just to say we like non-profits? Give the man an Oreo!
Yeah, we have lots of small rural electric co-ops, but have these people never seen Warren Buffett’s map of the giant private utilities that surround them and control the transmission? The co-ops survive by Congressional protection, and they get open access in regions that offer a strong quasi-public power pool open to everyone?
Thousands of people will lose health coverage this week. "Pass the Doritos, Max, and what if we make another two million people ineligible for Medicaid? It’ll get a great CBO score." Slurp.
[Updated Tuesday a.m.]





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It is always important to name names when stupidity is involved. The NYT article was written by David Herszenhorn and Robert Pear. You can see other articles published by them on this subject in the last 10 days here:
http://topics.nytimes.com/topi…..ne=nyt-per
I discern a clear pattern here. Mentions of the Democratic leadership are followed by words like “delay” and “retreat”. When centrist Democrats are talked about it is all about “concerns for costs” and not that they are in the pocket of the insurance industry. You don’t see anywhere the poor quality of American healthcare or the plight of the un- and under- insured discussed. And while the centrists, and isn’t even that term loaded making it seem that they are somehow moderate or representative of Americans, stall the leadership is tarred with “delay”.
I would say scarecrow has made a good and legitimate catch.
Last night, Huffington Post had a headline, refering to the AP article on Baucus’ committee, that screamed “Finance Committee Kills Public Option“. Here is the equivalent from the NYTimes article, translated into euphemismese and buried on the referred page:
First Max Baucus had protesters for single payer arrested. Now he single-handedly takes the public option off the table, something that 178 House Republicans together arguing for weeks couldn’t do. Raw power expressed completely against the public interest. The man is terminally corrupt. What’s truly wrong with our health care system, and many other systems, is that we’ve forgotten the therapeutic power that tar and feathers has on representative government. Max Baucus truly has no shame, no decency.
Hugh, — the pattern you’ve picked out could be its own post. Thanks for taking a look.
Grrrrr! My husband, who reads the paper before I do, said “I shouldn’t even bother reading it. I just get mad?” The topic: health care reform. This is from the guy who voted for Bush the Idiot twice. Obama and “Co-ops are just as good a public option” is playing with fire. I sure as h*ll am not voting for anyone that doesn’t work extremely hard and SUCCESSFULLY for public option in health care. Right now if we don’t get public option, it could be Sarah Palin running against Obama and I wouldn’t go and vote.
Of course you’ll be out to vote against Sarah Palin. She’ll win anyway.
Why have we not yet heard anything about action teams of constituents organizing in Montana and Iowa and Maine and elsewhere to confront these Senators on their home ground?
Oh, and Widman’s chippers are divine. Especially the dark chocolate ones.
Thousands of people will lose health coverage this week. …
Great framing. Health insurance never did anything for anybody. Only health care does that.
Of course, if you’re whipping a bill that guarantees the insurance industry a captive market for the forseeable future through the mandate, you’re not even going to see that a problem.
Exactly.
What was interesting about the photo that was with it was that Elmendorf of the CBO (and reportedly a former Kent Conrad staffer) was in the meeting and the photo. Is Elmendorf trying to add legitimacy to the Senate Finance Committee plan? What kind of referee does that make the CBO? Even Peter Orszag is put out with Elmendorf.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Scarecrow and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Real healthcare reform WITH a strong public option is not only gunna pass but with it will pass the power of the existin’ “centerist” leadership in the Senate and the fascist fellow travelers in the House. The power of the corporate oligarchy is real but unless they are willin’ to cut loose the shadow government of the security aparachiks and depose Obama by any number of means (see November, 1963) then the nature and character of American politics and the structure of our society is gunna change with the change in healthcare.
This is a watershed moment in history nuthin’ is gunna be the same and the fascists know it.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS WAR IS NOT OVER YET!!
What a bunch of jag offs!
Prairie sunshine asks:
Probably because the demonstrators are single payer advocates and FDL doesn’t cover that, although whether that’s a formal editorial policy, or simply a reflection of how Villagers and exclude and censor the “little single payer advocates” I can’t say.
You are an idiot.
Go away.
Eli is upstairs at the Mothership!
Grandma’s Old Party
Here’s a super piece about media distortion of healthcare debate :re public option from Alternet:
Corporate Media Have Ruined the Health Care Debate
Isabel Macdonald, AlterNet
Health and Wellness: TV networks have shut out coverage of single-payer as an option for health
Is this a rhetorical question? It’s obvious the NYTimes is simply doing job, which is to keep John Q Nascar so uninformed and mislead that he keeps voting for Repubs/Fake Dems.
Just like they always do, except for the 10% of their space filled with actual unbiased reporting which they need to do in order to not look too obvious about it.
So here are a bunch of guys with cadillac publically-paid health plans, gobbling down junk food in their efforts to eviscerate plans that might give basic health coverage at reasonable cost to everyone? What no smoke-filled room and open bar?
Perhaps this was a “Crazy For Cocoa” Puffs -Piece?
Isn’t it always amazing how special interests (see – The Rich) always fight reforms like this, despite the obvious fact that the status quo is untenable and that the reform saves their butts.
They hated Roosevelt, but we still have capitalism and the Rich.
They may hate the Dems, but fixing this problem will NOT end the Rich.
Actually, financial reform might engender more pure hatred. In the health care reform there may be more customers for the health care insurance industry and there isn’t talk of any hindrance to medical care costs. In financial reform there could be real gnashing of teeth.
But, it’s all needed and everyone knows it. They’re just haggling over details.
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Beg your pardon?
The fact is that while single-payer advocacy is not censored on these sites, it most definitely has been accorded second-class citizenship since the Seminal takeover. Not a single post that unequivocally advocates for single payer or strongly critiques the public option concept has been accorded front-page status on the diary blog since the Seminal superseded Oxdown and a paid representative of HCAN became a gatekeeper for diary elevation.
Indeed, it was only after I protested that Jason agreed to identify himself as an employee of HCAN on every one of his institutional cross-posts.
Your content-free ad hominem attack on lambertstrether is unworthy of FDL.
Scarecrow, Sen Kerry Ma has proposed taxing the tax exempt and very profitable for profit insurers to control healthcare costs.
Scarecrow how come you never discuss tax exempt public charity status of:
Kaiser, Blue Cross Blue Shield and the plethora of corporations in healthcare which have no tax liabilities.
Tax incentives only work for those who have tax liabilities??????
Take a look at the 990 tax returns filed by Kaiser et als………..
Just a small sample below http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/nccsTools.php
2007 – 1199c National Union of Hospital and Health Care Employee Afscme (231922766)
2007 – 1199seiu Home Health Aide Benefit Fund (562299294)
2007 – 1199seiu National Benefit Fund for Health and Human Service Employees (131628401)
2007 – 1992 Benefit Plan Retiree Health Benefits Reserve Trust (223462890)
2007 – 2000 Health Foundation (260129737)
2007 – 3030 Park Fairfield Health Center Inc (061423021)
2007 – 3030 Park Fairfield Health Center Inc (061423021)
[Edited by Mods. In order to save the server hamsters, please make your sample/example SMALL. (A small sample does not require 30 page down clicks)]
Do you think the American people understand the underlying tax structure which permits public charities to operate as for profit corporations in the health services???? American have no idea of corporate tax status in healthcare! Why not a little expose on the interaction of IRS exempt public charities division and state public charity law??? Take a look at the billion of dollars collected in premiums, by tax exempt insurers like “Banner” “Kaiser” Blue Cross, very lucrative corporations with no tax liabilities, like the rest of US!
If one where to add the premiums collected for health insurance collected by all tax exempt not for profit to the for profit corporations premiums collected what do you think or do you know the per capita premium collected, in aggregate in America???????????????
Please
use IRS
C Name of organization
KAISER FOUNDATION HEALTH PLAN
OF THE MID-ATLANTIC STATES INC
D Employer identification number
52-0954463
label or
print or Number and street (or P 0 box if mail is not delivered to street address ) Room /suite E Telephone number
type. See ONE KAISER PLAZA SUITE 1550L
S ecific
(510 ) 271-6611
p
Instruc – City or town, state or country, and ZIP + 4 FAccounting method fl Cash F Accrual
tions . OAKLAND, CA 94612
Other ( specify) 0-
(- Application
11 Other revenue (from Part VII, line 103) 11 7,031,772
12 Total revenue Add lines le, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6c, 7, 8d, 9c, 10c, and 11 . . . . . . . 12 1,955,184,402
13 Program services (from line 44, column (B)) . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 1,759,118,599
14 Management and general (from line 44, column (C)) . . . . . . . . . . . 14 141,379,787
u 15 Fundraising (from line 44, column (D)) 15
4, 16 Payments to affiliates (attach schedule) 16
17 Total expenses Add lines 16 and 44, column (A) . . . . . . . . . . . 17 1,900,498,386
,A 18 Excess or (deficit) for the year Subtract line 17 from line 12 . 18 54,686,016
19 Net assets or fund balances at beginning of year (from line 73, column (A)) 19 180,142,864
20 Other changes in net assets or fund balances (attach explanation) 20 21,466,339
21 Net assets or fund balances at end of year Combine lines 18, 19, and 20 . 21 256,295,219
Healthcare reform…………. when the omission of fact is a lie!!!
USE THE TAX CODE TO CONTROL COST/INFLATION AND CORPORATE
GREEDBEHAVIORsilence is cancer………………