I’ve been watching the "health debates" in the USA with increasing levels of disbelief and horror and read with interest Glen Greenwald’s analysis of president Obama’s politicking on his healthcare reforms. Several points stand out:
- The Republicans and their enablers in the Democratic party are not even remotely interested in healthcare reform.
- Using ‘bi-partisanship’ as an excuse President Obama is negotiating away the ‘public option’.
- Rahm Emmanuel, presumably with the President’s blessing, is leading the crackdown on those who favour a public health insurance system while simultaneously allowing so-called ‘centrists’ and ‘Blue Dogs’ to set the agenda.
Why on earth the Dixiecrat wing of the party should be given such leeway is beyond me.
What are we to make of a party whose leader can write:
In the coming weeks, the cynics and the naysayers will continue to exploit fear and concerns for political gain. But for all the scare tactics out there, what’s truly scary — truly risky — is the prospect of doing nothing. If we maintain the status quo, we will continue to see 14,000 Americans lose their health insurance every day. Premiums will continue to skyrocket. Our deficit will continue to grow. And insurance companies will continue to profit by discriminating against sick people.
Source: Op-Ed Contributor – Barack Obama – Why We Need Health Care Reform – NYTimes.com but which goes out of its way to accommodate people such as Tom Daschle who pockets a tidy sum by moonlighting as the insurance industry’s hireling mouthpiece? It seems to me that only reasonable conclusion is that to have health plans without the ‘public option’ is what the Obama administration has always wanted. If that is the case then it’s just another example of elite politics in a system which long ago gave up caring about the well-being of the American populace.
Except it isn’t.
The American right-wing have used the "health debate" to whip a rather a lot of America’s ample supply of unabashedly ignorant and unabashedly deranged and just plain batshit loolah extreme right-wing freaks to further a far uglier agenda than ‘merely’ defeating a very mild corrective to a situation in which companies inspired purely by the profit motive already make use of ‘death panels’. Such tactics are hardly surprising when one recalls the naked and blatant race-baiting that the McCain/Palin campaign engaged in during the election campaign. It’s hardly surprising that, egged on by the likes of Newt Gingrich, Palin continues to double down on her original assertion. Palin, Gingrich, and the extreme right-wing Republican party are trying to inflame that truculent and violence-loving segment of the American population who thrive on fear and have altogether too many guns. As Howard Dean who had previously lauded Obama as representing the end of "30 years of anger-based politics, the Slobodan Milosevic approach to governing" pithily expressed it. "This has nothing to do with health care".
"Anger based politics", "the Slobodan Milosevic approach to governing" were all described by American consensus historian Richard Hofstadter in his 1964 article for Harpers Magazine "The Paranoid Style in American Politics":
The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms—he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millenialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date fort the apocalypse.
[snip]
As a member of the avant-garde who is capable of perceiving the conspiracy before it is fully obvious to an as yet unaroused public, the paranoid is a militant leader. He does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated—if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.
Source: The Paranoid Style in American Politics
Ah yes the "death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values". Is it not reasonable to suppose that the death of the social order in which it was far better to be a white American than anything else is far more likely to stir unreasoning rage than the Obama administiration’s milquetoast health proposals? The barely concealed racist undercurrent being expressed at rallies where public officials are hanged in effigy, and where gun toting white men belonging to the extreme right-wing organisation "We The People" see nothing wrong with turning up carrying a sign proclaiming It’s time to water the tree of liberty, oblivious to the fact that the slogan was beloved of Timothy J. McVeigh and of racist groups such as Stormfront. Rob Reynolds, senior Washington correspondent for Al-Jazeera English captures what is going on in American politicas well:
The clear implication was made even plainer by a man at a meeting in Hagerstown, Maryland who held up a piece of cardboard upon which he had scrawled: "Death to Obama, death to Michelle and her two stupid kids."
[snip]
These contemptible fantasies are avidly stoked and facilitated by Republican Party hacks and lawmakers, the big insurance companies and other moneyed interests who will fight dirty to prevent changing the lucrative for-profit health system that is bleeding the country white.
But the sheer manic intensity of the foam-flecked tirades bursting out in the town halls, so out of proportion to their proximate cause, bespeaks much deeper roots of rage.
These are some of the same people who howled "traitor!" and "kill him!" at Sarah Palin’s rallies last year.
They are the ones convinced Obama is a Muslim "sleeper agent" who will destroy American values and hand the country over to Osama bin Laden.
The flip side of their rage is fear. They scream: "We want our country back!" Their country is one where white, Christian conservatives rule.
The idea of a black president and a liberal democratic majority in Congress, elected by a huge landslide margin last November, is simply impossible for them to contemplate without teeth-grinding, choleric eruptions of hatred.
Source: Al Jazeera English – Focus – Fear, racism at town hall meetings [Emphasis mine.]
I contend that what we are seeing is a struggle over the role of the state in America between those who consider the state’s legitimacy to be based upon it’s role as an explicitly racial state. When the American government functions on an explicitly racial basis using it’s capacity to:
- Imprison.
- Police.
- Persecute immigrants.
- Or make war on Muslims.
Then its legitimacy is assured and applauded by those on the American extreme right. When on the other hand the American government moves to do something to look after poor people then the American right wingers erupt in a frenzy of hate. This isn’t to say that when the American government creates an authoritarian prison state 1, polices, persecute immigrants, or makes war on Muslims, that its motives can be reduced solely to racism. But the persistence of Willy Horton’s legacy indicates to me that there is still a massive racial element to:
- America’s breathtakingly high prison population.
- The arrogance and savage violence of its policing.
- The repressive bureaucracies devoted to policing immigration.
- The presumption for the police and prosecutions and against civil liberties.
All of these are supported by a large number of Americans because of American society’s racial dynamics. Similarly the de-legitimising of even the idea that the government should have a social welfare function took the form of thinly concealed racist epithets about black ‘welfare queens’. 2
What is interesting to me as an outsider is that many of those protesting the health reforms — particularly if there were to be any meaningful public option stand to benefit if the very reforms they loathe are pushed through. What is happening, I contend is that these people are symptomatic of an existential crisis for those white conservatives who consider America to be their property. White American racist conservatism isn’t lashing out in rage and panic because of who or what Obama is. The nonsense about him being born in Kenya or about him being a secret Muslim is a symptom of unbridled panic at the thought that the 2008 election points to the possibility of new electoral coalitions. Paradoxically one of the people who expressed this panic clearly was the otherwise clueless TownHall protester Katy Abram whose tirade linked to above against America being ripped apart and turned into Russia included this:
"I don’t believe this is just about healthcare. It’s not about TARP. It’s not about left and right. This is about the systematic dismantling of this country. I’m only thirty-five years old, I’ve never been interested in politics. You have awakened a sleeping giant. We are tired of this. This is why everybody in this room is so ticked off. I don’t want this country turning into… Russia, turning into a socialised country. My question for you is, what are you going to do to restore this country back to what our founders created, according to the Constitution."
America as far as Abram is concerned is on the verge of extinction. The real America that is, the one she thinks the founding fathers invented. She’s been dismissed on the left as being both ignorant and possibly crazy — but to me as an outsider what is alarming about her is that she’s relatively sane compared to what appears to be a rather large number of her compatriots. The right wing militias who so love publicly bearing arms are part of a long American tradition of racial counter conspiracy. Whether it’s the KKK or the ethnic cleansing gangs described in Jean Pfaelzer’s Driven Out: The Forgotten War Against Chinese Americans3 there is a long and ignoble tradition of racist reactionaries taking the law into their own hands when the government fails to maintain their desired racial state. These same unregulated militias, for that is what is what they were, that were able to merge their racial agenda into anti-bolshevist crusades, fighting against the "yellow peril", union busting, or creating a Juan Crow system in Georgia are reemerging. The only difference that I can see is that this time their rhetoric is wrapped in the language of the American constitution and of the necessity of resisting tyranny. An increasingly hard-up working and middle class who were already living in terror of dislocation and poverty are now seeing threats to their well-being amplified by recession. The American dream (and reality) for such people was expressed through ownership of property. However meagre their actual possessions may be those possessions are theirs. And this, I think, rather than greed, is what fueled the "conspicuous consumption" model of post-World War II America. Anything that smacks of "socialism" really does seem to be both alien and menacing to such people. Abram and people like her desperately want to believe that they can maintain the lifestyle they’ve been taught they are entitled to so long as they maintain a punishing work schedule and unsustainable debt levels. As I watched the Abram video I was struck by her sincerity. She really does believe that a lifestyle that has gutted America’s future is not only sustainable but that there is some sort of "free market" that can only exist under a strict construction of the American constitution. The current multiple crises in America are being brought about by treasonous, evil, and powerful others inimical to America and all it stands for and intent upon its "systematic dismantling". Abram and the town hall protesters are a symptom of something very dangerous of a long tradition of extreme right wing American militancy that, should it be allowed to once again flourish unchecked, will make the misdeeds of Timothy McVeigh pale into insignificance.
markfromireland
Notes:
Recommended reading:
- Ruth Gilmour: Golden Gulag: Prisons, Surplus, Crisis, and Opposition in Globalizing California is a very useful study of among other things the rise of America’s authoritarian prison state.
- Ronald W. Walters: White Nationalism, Black Interests: Conservative Public Policy and the Black Community (African American Life Series) charts the backlash against affirmative action and the use 14th Amendment to the American Constitution to extend equal protection and rights to groups historically subject to discrimination and persecution.
- Jean Pfaelzer: Driven Out: The Forgotten War Against Chinese Americans. Documents a mostly forgotten (and ultimately failed) racial campaign.





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Brilliant analysis and important … thank you!
Not so sure it’s either brilliant or important but you’re welcome :-)
Dumbstruck. Siun is right.
Recommended.
Awesome
I only had time to skim through and but I think I totally agree. And I’m going to have to read this later when I have time to digest it
L8R
P.S. Coincidentally, I’m on my way out the door to go rent The Wind that Shakes the Barley
That and Michael Collins are both worth watching :-)
This is quite brilliant, and I could not agree more.
The Congress is made up of people, that people elected and sent there, so who is to blame for our problems. The Republicans if they had had their way, we all except for a few would be at the markets mercy. No Government help in any way. The Democrats want to give us many things, but want us to pay for their dreams. The Congress has caused every problem this Country has, including the present crisises. They have not fixed a single one, but just keep adding more. Anyone who thinks the Congress will start now doing great things for us, is a lunatic.
So what do you suggest putting in its place?
Nice piece of work. Living outside the US gives you a different perspective. Living here, I cannot see anything with which I either disagree or have not considered myself. You, Richard Hofstadter and Rob Reynolds have nailed it.
It is interesting to behold, how truly ignorant people believe that they can maintain the lifestyle they’ve been taught they are entitled to so long as they maintain a punishing work schedule and unsustainable debt levels even as their jobs disappear. Even as they witness the whole system breaking down before their very eyes. Abrams and many others believe that a lifestyle that has gutted America’s future is not only sustainable but that there is some sort of “free market” that can only exist under a strict construction of the American constitution.
Brilliant work, Mark. Thank you.
That rather horrible joke about the laboratory rat boasting about how every time it gave itself an electric shock the human in the white coat had to feed it springs to mind.
Thanks Kirk.
Remember the Onion’s Dec 2000 headline: “Bush: Long national nightmare of peace & prosperity is over”? They did it again. This week: “Congress Deadlocked Over How Not To Provide Health Care”.
Prediction…If America doesn’t get Public health care then Rs and Ds can kiss their sorry asses goodbye. A new Left Party much scarier than Europe’s Left will have nightmare reform as defined by all fascists standards.
Best thing i have seen on current health care events
http://www.slideshare.net/danr…..apkins-all
Outstanding post, Mark. Thank you. I couldn’t agree more.
POLITICAL EQUIVALENT OF A GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD?
Here’s my problem with how the public “negotiations” with Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats over national health care reform have been conducted by President Obama up to now. By repeatedly stating and or implying publicly that Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats actually WANT national health care/insurance reform, when all they really want is to defeat him and Democrats to maintain the status quo; Obama has “unbelievably” been giving Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats a POLITICAL PASS for obstructing meaningful reform. He has not been forcing them to PAY A POLITICAL PRICE for organizing dishonest and scurrilous personal campaigns to obstruct, undermine and stop meaningful national health care/insurance reform.
WHY hasn’t he been making them accountable for “their” bold-faced lies and duplicitous bad faith?
WHY has he been letting the rat bastards walk away unscathed while they are doing everything they can to screw him and the American people over?
WHY did he choose to do that? What constituency did that appeal to?
WHY did he think that the politics of accommodation, seduction and persuasion would have any effect on the “people” who have consistently demonstrated their entrenched lack of concern for the welfare of working class, working poor and impoverished American families? WHY?
A LEADER MUST SUPPORT THE TEAM AT LEAST AS MUCH AS THE TEAM SUPPORTS HIM
Please forgive me for using a sports analogy. If the head coach of FC Barcelona deferred to the opposing players and or malcontents on his own team as much as President Obama is pointlessly/counterproductively deferring to obstructionist Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats, he would be fired on the spot for undermining the loyalty, hard work and morale of the players on his team who would run through walls for him if he asked them to. The “players” most willing to run through walls for President Obama are the progressive/liberal Democrats.
If President Obama doesn’t STOP talking about people like Grassley and Bacchus as if they were revered members of HIS TEAM, he’ll lose the respect of the players who played their hearts out to win his presidency.
President Obama’s polling numbers have fallen because HE isn’t being as loyal or as aggressive in trying to WIN the fight for legitimate health care/insurance reform as the CORE players on HIS REAL TEAM are!
If he fails to get AT LEAST a STRONG PUBLIC OPTION passed, HE will have squandered the opportunity of our lifetime to make a “genuine improvement” in the quality of life of millions of struggling American families in a foolish attempt to “persuade” corporatists to grow a conscience, and teabaggers, birthers and deathers will take credit for defeating what they will describe as a “weak-kneed Socialist Democrat”.
Be sure. Be very sure.
This piece is so filled with thoughtful, well-researched analysis, it deserves a broader venue.
Oh, wait. We don’t have a broader venue. The American media want sound bites, pithy new memes (ergo, headlines) and simplistic, short, sophomoric screeds.
On the days I don’t wake up cranky and fearful for my country, it doesn’t take long for me to get there.
I agree…well done. So, are we doomed? Sure feels like it.
The most interesting peice of theater i the right’s racism is that talk show host — and Timothy McVeigh supporter — who brought several people with guns to a town meeting, and then “interviewed” them.
One of said perfomers was balck. Young, in a starched white shirt. Very “Collegiate.”
He was there to “prove” that racism wasn’t racism.
Two answers.
1. Seems like the community organizer model to have everyone get along.
2. Pleasing his corp campaign contributors.
I found little to argue with in your piece. It is refreshingly on target.
However, the depression regarding the possibility of change is discomforting, however understandable. Facts/observations, and arguments from them seem so inadequate when faced with the effects of media propaganda I find myself fleeing back to the people with whom I agree. And such preaching to the choir does no good.
How can reasonable people build honest change?
let’s point out, the blue dogs are the minority, it’s a tougher battle turning the public optioneers then the blue dogs
this is simple stuff here, by going with the blue dogs obama signals again, he is in the pocket of contributing industry
if this keeps up, soon I expect rush and hannity to be on board obama’s plane since all the money is going to start going to the democrats instead of the republicans
I am not a happy camper
Indeed you are correct. The party can get rough. What’s to be done about it? We should be talking about alternatives, something perhaps in place by 2012. I doubt a traditional third or sixth party will do much, if anything.
The mistake that Democratic voters make is in thinking that “their” party is actually theirs. Both parties seem to be very good at making lots of noise to garner votes but then spending their time in office tossing crumbs to their constituents. I don’t know if the fix was in for health care reform from the beginning but it sure seems like that now. The preservation of a broken for-profit system is the likely outcome of all of this.
President Obama and the democrats need to grow a pair of balls. Obama won the election in November; govern like it. Stop listening to the rethugs and their lap dogs in the media. Stop listening to Rahm Emanuel. If i recall Rahm wasn’t on the presidential ballot last fall. Get with the program Mr. President and democrats.
Excellent, Mark!
Highly recommended.
DW
American mythology — national myths and fables — are presented in a linear progression that would suggest the lives of Americans are better today than they were in 1930 or 1950 or 1970 or 1990.
As seen in the recent outbreaks of untethered irrational thought at so called “town halls” (another myth of American politics fed across American television and radio) that would suggest Americans either are very angry or very ignorant — most likely a hellish combination of both — this healthcare “reform” has been hijacked by interests in American society who want no real reform or only those changes that will enrich them even more.
The reappearance of Tom Daschle with all the known money politics this man is known for and represents plainly suggests the entrenched interests are working very hard to derail any real reform of American healthcare coverage,access and delivery.
Why is Barack Obama mixing it up with Tom Daschle — a known craven Washington insider and money politics gameplayer?
President Obama is very much at risk of losing credibility as it is based on what he has done or not done since the Oval Office became his on Jan.20,2009. The forces that are driving the Democrats have since the year 2001 not been often worthy of accolades from the American Left or Progressives.
Becoming more suspect after the 2006 elections and now coming into late 2009 after 2008 election seeming very disconnected from any legitimate claims of support from the American Left or Progressives.
Chuck Grassley is being given far too much influence by Obama WH and Democrats in Congress while Max Baucus clearly is being given a long,soft leash by this Obama WH then too.
One is left little proof other than to doubt Barack Obama’s political character and that of the hacks he seems to be running with and letting run this so called healthcare “reform” — reform that is being subverted by money politics,craven short term political gaming and good liars telling bad lies,half truths or abusing truths completely.
Doing nothing is held up as the worst outcome — one would have to disagree regarding that view — doing nothing is better than doing what will only lead to already well entrenched interests getting more money and Single Payer being displaced by misplaced American myths of free market capitalism — these ludicrous framings of American socialism ( keep government out of my Medicare? What!? ) and rabid gun toting,racist slurs and know nothingisms.
The idea of making profits off healthcare access and delivery is very 19th century thinking — it is an American disgrace that Single Payer was not put in place early on after WW2.
President Obama is either a liar or a political charlatan — either way if he lets people like Chuck Grassley,Tom Daschle and Max Baucus shape and set this so called healthcare reform he should be voted out of the WH in 2012.
President Obama is not proving to be a upholder of the Rule of Law, a protector of the downtrodden or a politician the American Left or Progressives should/can trust or support.
Mark, a total OT. Where are you in Ireland? We visited your lovely country a couple of years ago, so now, of course, I consider myself honorary Irish. What can I say? It’s what Americans do.
Here’s one possibility. It takes money and technical know how. I’ve suggested parts before. We need to attract lots of people to the internet, by lots, I mean the entire country including right wingers. I propose doing this by having local sites post public checkbooks on line. It would be done for every town, city and state although there are problems of scale. People seem to be interested in how their tax dollars are spent. Any local topic that attracts citizens will do. The sites would be the same so you find your way around one, you do for all. There can be chat, voting, calendars of town events, whatever floats your boat.
With this network established, we then try a national “come together” (to quote the Beatles) day. Like Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland in some old movie, every locality produces a concert using local talent, high school rock bands, whoever wants to perform. The concerts can be taped and archived. Should the project attract millions of people, we then turn our attentions to other things. The idea is to overcome the nuclear (individual) aspect of our society and create a community with social feelings. I suggest the concert because I tried to think of something that could get me to attend. That’s the closest I got.
The point is we need an all inclusive network that can do things. The more egalitarian the better. The more suggestions, the better.
FDLers know I have been a vocal supporter of Barack Obama, i.e., give him time, give him time, give him time.
Tempus fugit. It will no doubt please Obama detractors that I am being buried alive in apparent evidence that he may not be what a kezillion of us have so hoped he could be. Well, that’s wrong. He could be. Could have been. He himself (with a little help from his friends) has brought on my/our severely compromised faith in him.
My mother used to say you are known by the friends who surround you. Obama’s clique is dangerous. But then you all already know that. I needed something, someone to believe in. Pffffffft!
It’s really not all that complicated.
It’s BIG government intruding into the private sector and into the lives of individuals that has Americans anxious and paranoid.
The left was rightly concerned that the ‘Patriot Act’ would be used to ’spy’ on citizens, and continually denounce conservatives who want to ‘legislate morality.’ “Keep out of the bedroom” and “Keep your hands off my body” are rallying cries of gay rights and pro-choice activists but should a non-liberal say “Keep out of the boardroom” or “Stay out of my hospital room” the left twists itself into hilariously complex knots as to why???!!!
A majority oppose Obama’s policies because they fly in the face of this country’s core values of personal liberty and limited government.
Only the most hyper-partisan, statists refuse to acknowledge that the ‘elephant in the living room’ is the federal government.
His point about the belief that a ‘punishing work schedule’ can save you is to the point and deep. There have been times when a punishing schedule gave exceptional returns to ordinary people. The first was the period between about 1810 and 1860, when families prepared to make farms and clear timber earned on average 12 to 15 percent per year in real estate capital gains. The cost was huge in terms of suppressed consumption. Estimates suggest that families were recycling two-third to three quarters of their cash income into their farms. But it was an opportunity open to ordinary people.
The second great period was 1950 to about 1975/80, when anyone with a modicum of ability and the chance to go to university or even a junior college could expect to do well if he worked hard. And it worked. But from the early 1970s that job market began to close down for a number of reasons: the first was the effect of the war on the economy; the second was the massive entry of baby boomers from the early and mid 1950s into the labour market. In the short run if you were willing to work just a little harder than your competitors, you could still make out. But for anyone who isn’t supremely gifted, that approach is an arms race and a prisoner’s dilemma. I saw this happen in academics, were talented young people ruined their lives because the standards for publishing enough and fast enough to get tenure became punishing.
Looked at from the outside, America is not a terribly good place to raise children, unless you have special access to the fast track, in which case it is quite good.
And the thing of it is, people who are working hard — running as it were to stay in the same place — do resent being taxed and they do resent the fact that some one who isn’t workin as hard as they are might get some of their hard-earned income. This is an extremely hard nut to crack, and it is going to take a long time to crack it.
Thank you for a fine essay. Our dilemma is racism, plain & simple. Fortunately, these unreasoning people are in an electoral minority.
But the larger problem is that we do not have journalism anymore, and we haven’t had it since Watergate. It required less than five years after that seminal event for Carl Bernstein to write, “The CIA and The Media.”
Robert Borosage exposes much in, “The Mighty Wurlitzer.”
And CIA itself has been all too happy to brag about its influence with a review of Hugh Wilford’s excellent book, The Mighty Wurlitzer: How the CIA Played America.
Great post ! Thanks !
You really hit the nail on the head with this one, an excellent description of the fear and hatred that has become a part of this country.
Right now though , the rest of us have a reason to be fearful ,it’s only a matter of time before some right wing loony decides to take matters into his own hands.
The problem is that you refuse to acknowledge that a majority of Americans NOW do not support spending ANY MORE TAX DOLLARS. The ‘worst financial crisis since the Great Depression’ changed the public mood.
George W. Bush first started expanding government with ‘No child Left Behind’, Medicare Part D, the Patriot Act and then tried to cram the TARP down the throats of largely unwilling citizens, bailouts of failed institutions, from AIG to GM, are VERY unpopular.
Health Insurance/Health Care reform at this stage of the game is estimated to cost upwards of $1 TRILLION dollars over the next 10 years, and this is to be added ON TOP of a 10 year deficit that is now $9 TRILLION dollars.
Obama and Congress have thrown money at any and everything they can, all while promising NOT raise taxes on the middle class. Common sense tells us that this is impossible and Americans are bracing for the worst. They are resisting the ‘public option’ health insurance/health care reform because it is a BIG GOVERNMENT entitlement that we cannot afford right now.
“the punishing work schedule and unsustainable debt levels”
The 21 century version of indentured servitude.
How about the odd notion that when I pay money for insurance, it should actually be available to me when I need it most. The for-profit system comes across as a Ponzi scheme greased with self-imposed loopholes to avoid paying anything out.
I am prevented from reading about Tom Daschle by writing this comment. However this post underlines the important point that Obama for some people represents too much change, however much on blogs like this you can see Obama reacting to events and trying to attack things that have been put off: some kind of change would happen with or without him. Even Nate noticed some months ago that Obama’s presidency had been very cautious and small-c conservative.
I did not see the whole Katy Abram interview but I did read that she said that she thought the government would protect her until now. It’s not right to say that George Bush can’t change, because he did give up drinking and he gave up the idea that the US shouldn’t do nation-building. But he got people to believe that the United States would be the same as they had grown up believing in even when it was not true.
You flushed your credibility down the toilet when you used the term DEMOCRAT PARTY. There is no Democrat Party. There has never been a Democrat Party. The DEMOCRATIC PARTY has been in existence virtually since the founding of this nation, first as the Democratic-Republican Party, and then later as the DEMOCRATIC Party.
You revealed yourself to be a tool or a fool.
Your post is extremely well thought out and researched. Thanks for that. But, that makes it all the more amazing to me that you are not aware that Democrat Party is an invention of some ugly people from the Republican Party. The actual name of the party is the Democratic Party. And that is how it should have been written within the sentence that I’ve quoted from you.
This will be the last fight, I predict, or at least, one of the last fights. And by that, I don’t mean one particular issue- this will certainly go on past the health care thing- but a period of years. Until Obama’s presidency ends, that is the last fight for white conservatives. They will fight, fight, fight… but if we break them, as seems likely, we will win.
that’s one bizzare and uninformed post
I guess you aren’t aware that the MAJORTIY of americans WANT a public option, they are NOT on board with your post one bit
in addition;
where were you when bush gave middle class assets to the wealthy in HIS “economic stimulous”?…in the form of his depraved “tax give backs” marketed as some kind of economic stimolous that caused this depression before us today?
and where were you when reagan began the redistribution of burden onto those paying the most already, the middle class?
here’s a news flash for you
if obama took back the middle class gifts to the wealthy that bush gave the public option would have excess not deficit
if obama took back the middle class gifts given to the wealthy by reagan we would have back the middle class security reagan squandered
you site the cost of health care as if it increases under a public plan over the costs to the public for a private plan
errr
no
here’s the plan that satisfies all your concerns;
1) get back my money, I don’t want the wealthiest people on the planet having it
2) produce an efficient health care so we don’t go bankrupt like every other industrial country
3) SEE NUMBER ONE
4) STOP funing government’s export of well paying american jobs to countries that allow slave labor
5) SEE NUMBER ONE
Insurance execs probably feel Obama, Rahm, and company are very ballsy for campaigning on a public plan then leaving supporters hanging when the battle’s being fought. They’re playing their parts well.
This is starting to remind me a bit of that battle betrayal in Braveheart.
Thank you for this outstanding and thought-provoking post, Mark. I wish more Americans availed themselves of opportunities to see how others see us: the change in perspective is painfully bracing. And helpful.
(Best to you and the family–and thinking muchly of the Guides these days.)
It is nice work, Mark, but it seems to me that the Richard Hofstader quote is applicable to all who see conspiracy, collusion, cataclysm, and at least a degree of apocalypse in everything. I’ve read at least a few comments which precisely fit his description regarding the desire of some to be ahead of all others in reading the tea leaves. If we all reach the point where we’re willing the rake all of the cards on the floor and look for a new deck, we have no idea how it will ultimately end, but for some it offers a chance to rule in hell.
I still believe we are better off than we were at the beginning of this year and have good reason to hope and work for progress on a number of fronts. The Roosevelt Administration could have thrown it all in when the National Recovery Act was ruled unconstitutional. They kept trying, and not everyone, even on the left, agreed with all of the efforts.
The problem is that no one knows what a majority of the American people want. Commenters here assume 76% want single payer. Those of the right have it the other way round. I would try to eliminate the ambiguity.
As for current economic conditions, it is clear (to me) free market capitalism cannot regulate rapidly evolving technological societies. We make technological mistakes, that’s inevitable, but we cannot correct the mistake because jobs are involved and we need jobs to keep roofs over our heads and food on our tables. We fight to retain internal combustion engines long after they ceased to make any sense. The current economic downturn will require far more stimulus than is on the table. If the thirties is analagous (and it sure is) it took WWII to get us out. I do not look forward to WWIII. I hope we will spend on things like mass transit (a war on the automobile)
Another limited way out of our difficulties is raising taxes on the rich. This gets no traction from the rich (understandable) but also no traction from the less than rich (deluded) I guess they expect someday they will be rich and taxes will be a drag. It’s true someone wins the lottery, but far more lose. It’s crazy to build a philosophy on such long odds.
Hopefully the last time the country elects a “community organizer!”
lol “Indie” my ass .. who’d you vote for last election and tell us a bit about your political history eh ??
think you’re fooling anyone here ??
IOW’s .. who let the troll in ??
Goodness, ya go away for a hours and a whole lot of people give their considered reactions – many thanks to all of you who commented I’ll try to respond appropriately below.
Well I’m a European conservative and I don’t consider the European left scary at all. I may, and do, often disagree with them, however to disagree is not the same as to demonise. The European extreme right are very scary indeed however – as are your extreme right.
When satire is closer to truth than “journalism” maybe subjecting your opponents to sustained and withering mockery is the only viable tactic to use? Barney Frank’s recent comments vis a vis the futility of debating with his dining room table springs to mind.
Perhaps because President Obama is a right-wing politician himself? He’s well to the right of me and I’m very much on the conservative end of the European political spectrum.
Not yet but as I remarked last week (this piece is a follow on) the only thing fascists understand is fear. You have to make those leading and deceiving many of the “Town hall protesters” fear you.
Believe me I sympathise. It must be dreadful to be American, to love your country, and to see how it’s been dragged in the gutter.
Thx :-)
I believe the technical terms for such people are:
1) Unprincipled opportunist.
2) “Uncle Tom”.
Why on earth the Dixiecrat wing of the party should be given such leeway is beyond me.
The dominant paradigm is still economic neoliberalism aka free market capitalism, and underlying premise of which is that wealth is wealth because is is smart economically and therefore it should be in charge politically as well. Obama is an economic neoliberal and has surrounded himself with economic neoliberals, excluding progressive economic advisors.
The problem is that economic neoliberalism equates prosperity with growth of GDP without paying attention to income and wealth distribution. Progressives distinguish between growth as measured by GDP and prosperity as a function of GDP and distribution. While growth of GDP as been rising over the past several decades, prosperity as measured in terms of distribution has been declining.
This is creating a problem for Democrats now in power, since Wall Street has done well and is recovering first, even though it is chiefly responsible for the crisis, while Main Street has been stiffed and continues to suffer. Thus far, progressive voices are being shut out, however. This beginning to look bad for Dems in 2010 and 2012, since the economic situation is worsening as a result of productive overcapacity and excessive consumer debt, coupled with zombie banks on government life support that are profiting from government largesse and handing out big bonuses.
Meanwhile, the Fed and Treasury are blowing another bubble to rescue wealth instead of attacking the problem at the source. The major problem facing the US is that rent-seeking has replaced production as the preferred way of increasing income and wealth at the top. This leads to excessive debt weighing down the system and inefficiencies in the allocation of capital.
This is just crazy.
The myth of “progress” is indeed a very compelling one. Societies IMO often progress (if they progress along the lines of “two steps forward one step back” it’s not a smooth progression.
As to you detailed political comments – I’m not in a position either to judge or to reply. Firstly because I don’t know enough about your domestic politics to be able say anything worthwhile. Secondly and far more importantly because somebody who consistently demands that Americans keep their noses out of other peoples’ politics should extend that courtesy to Americans.
Not in Ireland at all :-) Hence the “from” part of the handle. My late wife was Danish so I have a part-time home outside Copenhagen when in Denmark I live in one part, my son, his wife, and their five children live in the other half of the place across the courtyard. My permanent home is in Irak and has been for quite a few years. I plan on returning their shortly after Eid.
Indeed.
The answer is easy for all who have eyes to see and ears to hear. Obama is a neocon believer in Leo Strauss’s nonsense and a free market believer in Milton Friedman’s garbage.
Campaign Obama was a complete sham following the Machiavellian principle of saying whatever he thought would get him elected. When the corporatocracy flinched at McCain’s selection of Pailin and realized Obama could win, it poured money into his campaign putting him over the top. In return we got President Obama.
President Obama intends to promote the corporatocracy. He doesn’t want to reform the health insurance system in any manner that would reduce corporate profitability, which explains why he’s against single payer and a public option. His nonnegotiable condition is a mandate that will require everyone to buy health insurance along with backdoor deals that allow health insurance companies and Big PhRMA to raise prices without limitation. He couldn’t care less about the terrible consequences such regressive “reform” will visit upon the middle class. He wants the rich to be richer.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
It is beginning to look as if, since we are so polarized here, that we may be about ready to take some extreme(ly positive) actions to solve this mess.
By putting the ideas out and beginning to act on them, a mass movement can begin.
First we must just leave the Uber Conservatives to their lives. And begin creating our own lives. Boycott the insurance industry. Form Free People’s hospitals and clinics with the health professionals who think like we do. Is this what is currently meant by co-ops ? (Their terms are always changing) If our payments go directly into paying for care, we cut out all the middle men and the doctors and nurses still make the same amount of pay.
Buy medicines directly from the manufacturers. Private Medical Co-ops are what I am thinking.
We can commit all kinds of private acts of Civil Disobedience like this. What ever happened to the idea of people squatting in their own homes ? If ten or twenty thousand families just squatted in their homes , can you just imagine all of them being carted off to ..what..detention camps ? Or the local governments just washing their hands of the whole mess because they may be the next people to be thrown out of their homes.
Form People’s Banks. Patronize each others’ businesses.
If our government wont serve us, then we need to form our own inside it ..and become a benevolent virus that can spread. Its Creative Non Violent Civil Disobedience.
Also we may become a new disporia and re-emigrate back to Europe and into the other Americas and Canada, and even more exotic countries..leave the Rightists to stay to wallow in their own mess. It will pass eventually and our grand children can return to The Old Country.
Another possibility is to let all the Uber Rightists have their Secessions. The U.S. would then be unable to be the horrid bullying Super Power it always has been trying to be.
Things will never be the Same again no matter what.
First steps would be small and personal.but would spread quickly.
Certainly there’s a major element of racism yes.
Oh indeed, and many of those who egged on and hoped for precisely that will do a wonderful impression of being shocked and dismayed.
Thank you for providing with eloquence and conviction evidence for my underlying suspicion that American politics has degenerated on all sides of the divide to the level of the snarling cur. Now KMIRA.
Thank you I actually am aware of that and am mildly embarrassed by the typo – by the time I spotted it the time-period in which I could make edits had expired.
Which is why you’re doing nation destruction instead.
Thanks Laura – and thank you also for your post about the death of my colleagues and their children during the last weeks bombings. We’re all feeling a bit shattered and your kindness was appreciated.
I only wish I could do more. As it is, you are all foremost in my daily mediations.
Oh you’ll get no argument from me that Obama is a better option than McCain and I take your historical point. However I do not believe that Obama is a new FDR, a new Hoover perhaps ….
As to Hofstader – I’m not sure if I’m seeing your point, there are plenty of people who take a dim view of life/events/young people these days etc but who don’t use their gloomy views as an excuse for political extremism and violence. Hofstader was describing a particular type of political actor the type of extremist who sees the “end times” coming and acts accordingly.
Thank you, you’ll get no argument from me about the evils of unrestrained and irresponsible capitalism. I agree completely that Obama is a neoliberal and in thrall to its economic doctrines.
Great post Mark and I completely agree with your premise. I believe the behavior we see in response to the health care bill and the stimulus etc. are fueled by rage and fear that the status quo – power centered in the hands of white men – is slipping away. Had Bush or Reagan, or even Clinton suggested similar policy revisions, we might have seen strenuous pushback – but not the manic, hateful, violence-tinged response that is going on.
Thanks :-)
Bush or Regan might have been able to carry something off perhaps, I don’t know – Clinton? The impression I got and still do get as an outsider is that both former President Clinton and Current Secretary of State Clinton inspire visceral loathing on the right. Am I wrong about that?
No, you’re right, the Clintons do push a lot of buttons. But Hillary and Bill are the right race. I think there are a fair amount of people in this country, who are really outraged, appalled, at who has been elected President. Now they’re angry. Torture? War? Not so much, but now they’re outraged, and they hate anything he proposes.
Yeah sounds about right to me – I was afraid that’d be the case – thanks for replying.
I wrote a short blog a few years ago on Prof. George Lakoff describing how to counter their fear strategy
Link here
I’d love to hear you give some explanation for how these people go on clinging to this belief of thiers they they are protected in an almost mystical way by the”founders” who arent humans to them but gods.Katy has probably never read the constituion, and she wouldnt understand it if she did,and she seems to have no grasp of history, but she knows it needs to be “restored”. The “constituion” she “belives in” like the bible. They are American racism is like our original sin. Going back to the early Virginia colony, the pact that the ruling class made with poor whites was never to take up arms against their masters, in return for being granted racial superiority. they created an American caste system. It was always stronger in the south, but not exclusive to the south.
Interesting thanks – and how are you going to respond to physical force or the threat of it? Is someone who turns up carrying a sign threatening bloodshed such as the “tree of liberty” reference and carrying a gun merely making a point or threatening violence?
I repeat the only thing a fascist understands is fear and you need to make them fear you.
I was thinking in more general terms
But as for tactics and the situation you describe … I don’t know?
Maybe it’s because I’m a pretty decent size guy (above average – back in the day I was a defensive end and offensive tackle on my school’s football team) but nobody has tried to physically intimidate me personally at any of the protest/rallies/political events I’ve been to in the last 6 years or so. Wish I had time to make a list. Click my name and click around for an idea what my friends and I have been involved in, then, google ACLU (somehow got myself elected to the BoD) and Sacramento for an idea of what we’ve been doing as far as civil liberties
It’s been a long six years
I’m not afraid of punks or bullies. Actually I thrive on them