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After reading the list of Talking Heads and realizing that ABC was still allowing the thoroughly dishonest George Will to destroy its reputation and poison America’s political discourse, and even after the clownish Jon Stewart showed, as countless others had done, that the person Will, CNN, Fox and others relied on for expertise on health reform was a moronic, pathological liar, the person formerly known as scarecrow dragged his television into the bathroom, dumped it into the tub and after filling the tub, removed his hat, immersed himself and flipped the switch, . . . but nothing happened.
Remembering that Silvia the cleaning lady had come yesterday and always turns on all the lights and probably the air conditioner with the vacuum cleaner and likely blew a fuse, he slowly climbed out of the bath and calmly walked dripping over to the kitchen table to write a note reminding Silvia not to turn on all the lights and the air conditioner and vacuum cleaner at the same time on any day just before the Sunday Talking Heads are posted.
He then reconnected the tv hoping to watch John McCain explain why it was always treasonable whenever Nancy Pelosi spoke when she traveled to the Sunset District, never mind Israel, but it was perfectly okay for him to visit Libya just in time to greet the terrorist who blew up an airliner. But of course, the tv didn’t work any more, so he missed McCain, the man who still clings to the Republican always say no party, lecture us on how Obama was not being bipartisan enough just because he only allowed Chuck reasonable to be afraid Grassley to accuse him of killing old people and not fessing up about the government planned takeover of MedPAC.
Disappointed, he was forced to read later that Orrin Hatch had again broken his world record for the number of bald-face lies he could cram into a single non sequitur response to a mindless question from David Gregory. And he missed watching Chuck Grassley explain to the credulous Bob Schieffer that it was reasonable to spread baseless fear, which to Grassley probably means the Obama WH was planning to pull the plug on the "gang of six," even though only a crazy person still believes Obama would actually do something that sensible.
Nevertheless, I’m told Kent Conrad was there to remind us that he was certain that the public option could never get the 80 votes needed in the Senate, so that was now off the table, because since it might actually save money it would undermine their excuse for cutting subsidies to save money, and because with all the oreo cookies and chocolate potato chips, there was no longer any room left on the table for any reform ideas that hadn’t been approved by Tom, Rahm and Bob Dole.





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Thank you Mr Crow
Now, I know that the tv picture does weaken my assertion here, but your report really reminds us again why it is time for a change of faces we see on tv….how many old white guys can they find for the Sunday lineup? Some of these people, McCrazy and Grass…have been around since the creation. I am sure there are some articulate younger people who may have a new point of view, be beyond old rivalries, whose pockets have not been filled with corporate $$$….Bring ‘em on.
The Sunday talk shows are a joke political junkies go as soon as they they can get on the net go to the blogs for real news we only watch the news because we feel we have to keep an eye on the GOP.
The GOP’s adrenaline junkies watch Fox’s lies because they like being outraged/unhappy? What is the German word for likes being Outraged all the time?
Schadenfreude means enjoying the suffering of others so I figure the Germans have a word to describe Fox News viewers.
Hahahahahaaa! Oh, perfect, scarecrow!
Thanks for making my day, scarecrow, or should I henceforth call you “prince” or the “artist”? In any event, I know the feeling well and will empathize every time I read one of the MSM’s manglings of a newsworthy issue. Down with “the moronic, pathological liars,” or as Al franken once said: “Lies and the Lying Liars That Tell Them.”
You are too, too clever and so incredibly right on. But glad that “the bathtub incident didn’t finish you off.” However, I truly understand your temporary, however fanciful, desire to off yourself. I long ago stopped watching the Sunday shows; refuse to watch ABC almost entirely (except for Gray’s Anatomy) but most especially GMA and the idiot Gibson. I will never forgive their asinine election debate and coverage of the health care reform efforts.
Blessings and thanks for the humor that makes the insanity liveable.
So true!
Yeah, well, we also have to keep an eye on the faux Democrats.
The Rachel Maddow show has invited a whole new set of people to talk, and amazingly enough, not all of them are old white guys (like me). Even so, they are smart and knowledgeable. Some of them are even funny. I wonder if the producers of the Sunday morning shows have noticed this amazing and previously unknown phenomenon.
But Rachel’s a . . . lesbian!
Gasp!
It’s just as well that the power was off. The smell of damp, scorched hay smoldering is quite unpleasant and would have complicated Silvia’s life.
Probably would’ve cut down on the number of interesting posts here, also.
I don’t watch any of them anymore…although I did watch last Sunday because Rachel was on. She did so well in spite of all the interference, that I doubt she’ll be asked back again soon. Her own show is so much better than any of the Sunday shows….she asks good questions, and then she listens. What a pleasure!
Surely you jest.
Trumka is going to be on the Maddow show tommorow
I no longer just turn off my television on Sunday… I drape a tapestry over it.
They had her on press the meat,..er meet the press last week oposite the dick army (singular)
I’m aware that Rachel was on MTP. That you should think that should spread further is what I’m responding too. The better she was, the less likely she and her ilk would appear on Sunday Talks.
I’ve been thinking lately how ludicrous the health CARE debate has become and you really nailed it. It’s hard not to pull my hair out when I read and hear some of the anti-reform commentary. Thank god for sites where you discover that others are also on the verge of being committed. The only thing to do though it keep up the fight and push the dem’s and Obama to do the will of the people who put them in office. Going into the Lion’s Den Tues. Townhall of very conservative rep in Orange County, CA. Taking camera and 27 year old daughter, college grad with two BA’s, one in Chemistry one in Geology, off to Berkely next Sept. for PHD but taking a year off to work for a large corporation in order to get health insurance. She can’t get it on her own due to pre-existing minor issues. She is giving up research for the year in order to have insurance. Ridiculous.
Good luck.
Did you know that her show is on opposite Suze Orman on CNBC? GE: The Lesbian Company. Sort of eager to see Orally pick up on that.
Did FDL covered the International Swine Flu Conference held in Washington, DC last week?
I couldn’t find coverage in perusing your listing of past events.
stewart really did a number on her. I wonder why she ever went on the daily show??
R U kidding!!!??? they may have missed the swine flu conference?? what with dick army all worried about swine flu being a “librul” conspiracy
the questions I want answered is why the MSN talk and news shows allowed her to come on at all; there are numerous articles readily available that show McCaughey is an “unreliable” source, and yet she kept getting invited and it became “he said/she said.” There’s no excuse for that.
They are not looking for people who actually have something important to say. They are looking for outrageous people, stupid will work just fine, and it’s all a game with them anyway.
“…dragged his television into the bathroom, dumped it into the tub and after filling the tub, removed his hat, immersed himself and flipped the switch, . . . but nothing happened.”
Plug it in, plug it in!
Yep. All the more reason to ridicule them when they do.
A great deal depends on my not knowing every detail.
Want to know how you can tell years in advance that a Methodist Governor is going to run for President?
Crist Says Prayer Has Spared Fla. From Hurricanes
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Soooo transparently pandering to AIPAC you could puke.
That’s what I thought.
The MSM didn’t cover the Swine Flu Conference either.
Like your life!
Glad it didn’t work.
Alice laughed, “There’s no use trying,” she said, “one can’t believe impossible things.”
“I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”
Thats because your smarter than me, or maybe less lazy. I decided quite while back that theres “news” and then theres things we just dont talk about. Its one thing spew statistics and pretend to give a crap, but if theres ever a chance that some action might be taken, then the “real” Americans, those who can get a story killed with a phone call, start making calls, and we can be sure they are all on the same page. There arent any real journalists who are willing to defy orders from the corporate office. They have theirs and life isnt fair and so on..I dont
think it ever occurs to this generation of flaks that maybe they should report honest facts,not because they want to kiss ass,or they are politically partisan, but simply because its their fucking job.
“Clownish”?
The man’s the most respected name in news!
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Now that Lutherans have voted to allow *gasp* teh gay to offer sermons, this is okay. And now that Jay Leno has said blowjob on Maher’s show, the new era of teevee punditizing can indeed include the dfh women….
Might even watch again. Meanwhile, I have discovered the wonders of HGTV. Greatest antidote to Sunday gasbags evah.
Agree, I have great respect for what Stewart does; the sad irony is that both can be true, which was the point. The meaning wasn’t directed at Stewart, but rather at those who pretend to be journalists, but do less journalism than someone who thinks of himself in comedic terms. Why did it take a comedy show to do what he did?
Never watched them anyway – if I wanted to know how old white Republicans thought I’d just hale myself down to the grocery store.
I must say, it’s been fun watching Krugman on Steph’s show. Doubly fun earlier today with Krugman AND Reich, against whom David Frum and G. Will were intellectually and rhetorically outclassed. But with Steph, unfortunately, you get Krugman one week, and then THREE weeks with the likes of that unctuous harpy, Nooners, or the mummified remains of the formerly vibrant Cokie Roberts. Mendacity, irrelevance, bad-faith arguments from people who’ve never gotten it right in at least 8 years.
But by and large, the Sunday yak shows are a game preserve for people who belong in disgrace and isolation (Armey, McCain) or should be allowed to slide into obscurity (Delay). Losers, all. Fexgh.
It’s because the MSM still think The Daily Show is a comedy programme, and that Stewart is a lowly “comedian”. Almost none of the guests take it seriously, and they really don’t see the reality of the show. They go on there because it’s “hip”, but they’re being made fools of by the subtle, at times brilliant wit of Stewart.
It is absolutely irrelevant whether or not the new TV people — and for the love of god there must be new TV people — are old white guys. It is just as easy for the networks to find young black women, middle-aged Hispanic gay people, or any other hue and age, to giggle, lie, spout nonsense and generally make pathetic fools of themselves in exchange for lots of cash.
I quit watching after I couldn’t stand the way the hosts let lies just stand with no follow up. And they keep having the same guys over and over and over spouting the same crap. John
I would accept the sunday bobbing talk heads shows in exchange for removal of the during the week holy right ranters.
I like that Tavis Smiley and Joe Scarborough agreed on one of those shows today — who knows which one, they all blur together like a London tea party — that Obama had better get off his ass and start acting like a political leader, not just a cultural pop star, twisting arms and getting concessions FROM THE DEMOCRATS. Both agreed that bipartisanship is a ridiculous premise, even while Chuck Schumer on Meet the Press was defending it to a stone-faced Orrin Hatch who in turn spen his time dishing out lies as fast as he could without breaking a guilty smile.
(What IS it with that David Gregory? His right-wing tendencies are blatantly obvious in his questions, so now that Scarborough is onboard to signal NBC’s agnosticism regarding political talk — after all, it is a subsidiary of GE and who there would countenance bias? — why is Gregory still feigning middle of the road? No one’s fooled, it just looks foolish.)
Of the MSNBC Work Night Programs, we (a seasoned progressive politico and his amazed and disgusted bedfellow, or is that bed-gal?) like best the Rachel Maddow Show and the newcomer, The Ed Show featuring Ed Schultz.
Rachel’s reliably challenging even if sometimes the personal scandal coverage is tedious. People’s actions are mainly symptoms of systemic malaise which as a result of the focus on personal scandal is not criticized. We like that Rachel’s a lesbian and wear’s geeky glasses in real life. These are real street creds in our sexually-and-good-looks-obsessed-yet-perversely-parochial times.
It’s Big Ed, though, who has captured our hearts with his bull in a right-wing china closet approach. I keep waiting for him to shout out “F**k him!” when speaking about McConnell or Baucus or even the revered Obama, even in primetime. and Deejay likes it that Ed looks like he should be a gun-toting birther right-wing fanatic, but he speaks in true Leftie, more than anyone else on cable except perhaps the more civil Bill Moyers.
Much though we tire of the repetition and formulae, we much prefer a few evening hours of MSNBC to a whole Sunday morning of bland and know-nothing talking heads.
BTW, did you know that handsome tough-guy actor Sterling Hayden really was a tough guy? He earned a Silver Star in WWII as a guerrilla fighter smuggling supplies to Tito’s Yugoslav partisans under constant threat from German E-boats. He was also was an unrepentant member of the US Communist Party and a 1st Amendment defender who still got work in Hollywood? Leave it to TMC to toast the true greats of American cultural history, towering figures that the crapload of nobody celebrities on E!, MTV, the networks, and other such trash media are intended to make us forget.
Thanks Scarecrow. I subjected myself to Chris Matthews for his half hour and then flipped between, This Week, Face the Nation and Meet the Press. Yes I am a glutton for punishment.
I could not believe how Chris Matthews was kissing Bob Woodwards ass. Calling Bob “groupthink” Woodward the “greatest reporter” and the “primary source”. Woodward took the bait and started beating his publicly AGAIN. They spent most of the half hour talking about Woodwards beaten Watergate role. Christ All Mighty Woodward has not come up to those standards in years. And on top of it one has to wonder with Deep Throats position (or lack of ) and how he led Woodward and Bernstein just where he wanted them to go, you have to wonder about how big that story really was and what Deep throats, Woodwards, and the WaPo’s agenda really was.
Woodward was a complete groupthinker in the run up to the invasion of Iraq, did everything he could to undermine the investigation of the Plame outing. What the hell is up with Matthews fluffing up the phony reputation of Woodward.
Matthews and Woodward were trying to beat up blogs. Matthews “the bloggers do not fact check”. Then the Daily Beast editor and Joe Klein took that claim on. Editor in Chief of the Daily Beast Tina Brown said that the folks who comment at blogs along with the bloggers cross check dig and question the validity of information all of the time.
Joe Klein called the cross checking and going lateral on the internet “grazing” and “roaming”
Watch Chris Matthews kiss Woodwards ass. Watch Bob Woodward beat this chest based on his past investigative (Christ Deep Throat led them down a specific path) reporting.
http://www.thechrismatthewsshow.com/index.php
The one thing that Matthews and the rest forgot to mention is that it was the horribly inaccurate reporting and lack of challenging in the run up to the unnecessary and immoral war in Iraq that pushed most of us to the internet for accurate news, investigative reporting. We were looking for the truth and it was not on the MSM
Also on the Matthews show Gloria Borger referred to “blogging as very solitary” now this could not be further from the truth.
Ew, Scarecrow, Glenn Greenwald, Jane, etc put something out there and then the public can fact check, cross reference, challenge, discuss etc. “solitary” Has Gloria Borger ever visited Firedoglake or any other blog where these discussions are taking place?
Not one mention about the bomb that Ridge dropped or Jeremy Scahill’s investigative reporting about Blackwater/Ze/ one of their 20 other names.
No Matthews focused on Woodwards past and mythical reputation of Woodward. Pathetic
Krugman and Reich ripped up Will’s arguments during the round table on “This Week”
Krugman referencing the Republicans stance against the “public option”
“utter hypocrisy”
Reich “Republicans against competition is a fundamental contradiction”
This line I think it was Krugmans referring to the economy “we’re not in heaven or hell, we’re in purgatory”
George Will had his tail between his legs
Very funny and sad post. I caught Grassley explaining that he lets his constituents set the agenda at his town meetings. So when the person said they were worried that the gubmit would pull the plug on Grandma, he just replied that she had a reason to be fearful. Goodness knows what Nurse Ratchet Pelosi could do to health care. Shieffer kept saying, “The bill doesn’t say that.” Finally, Grassley said, Okay, Okay, “the Pelosi bill didn’t say it, but it is where it leads people to.”