I wanted to keep the post as simple as an effort to organize an actual tea party with theas possible so I didn’t go to far into the origal tea party but I do need to post links and quotes

This is a must read and here’s the lead;

Declaring an end to government-backed global trade that was destroying local economies, this small, masked minority started a revolution with an act of rebellion later called the Boston Tea Party

Intriguing stuff there, folllowed by the lead paragraph;

On a cold November day, activists gathered in a coastal town. The corporation had gone too far, and the two thousand people who’d jammed into the meeting hall were torn as to what to do about it. Unemployment was exploding and the economic crisis was deepening; corporate crime, governmental corruption spawned by corporate cash, and an ethos of greed were blamed. “Why do we wait?” demanded one at the meeting, a fisherman named George Hewes. “The more we delay, the more strength is acquired” by the company and its puppets in the government. “Now is the time to prove our courage,” he said. Soon, the moment came when the crowd decided for direct action and rushed into the streets.

And thus the beginning of this new nation, as a revolt against lowering taxes.

interesting stuff, quite oposite how we’ve been taught in school and certainly the antithesis for the current day “tea baggers”

now to the common misbelief;

“no taxation without representation”

see that?

where do you see “no taxation”?

you don’t, you see the “without representation” which CLEARLY demonstrates their recognition that taxes are important but THEY decide whether those taxes are too high or too low

off for the morning, leaving my post an orphan but for my own responses to it

sad face

It never ceases to amaze me how progressives can re-write history.
Actually a strong case can be made to deny representation (the right to vote) to anyone who pays no income tax.

Well, we’d have to meet in Boston. An amazing city!

and that matters why, exactly?
Hell. I’m not being represented anyway!

tinman, you are a funny fellow, you believe propaganda and then when confronted with the truth, if it doesn;t fit your ideology why it must be re-writing history

funny funny man you are

tiz a fact, the boston tea party was to refuse entry into this land product because the tax was removed

the neo-cons have highjacked the republican party, co-opted the term “concervative” to mean wing nut and make believe their beliefs are center when they are the furthest thing off center

then their puppets and marionettes actually demonstrate on behalf of corporations and against their own interest, the interest of their wife, kids and parents

and your post represents exactly what I’m talking about

enjoy yourself tin man

Where is move on.org with their organizing power?

I am tired of sending money to slackers.

Perris is on point. He knows his history. I taught U.S. History until I retired back in May of this year. Tinman, it’s important to understand exactly what you are representing before you jump on the bandwagon. The Boston Tea Party was a rebellion caused by King George III giving the DEIC the right to sell tea in the colonies without paying taxes on them. It was a taxcut. And, at this time in American history, tea was the preferred beverage of choice, not coffee.

Maybe a better idea that would get the more sane tea partiers on board is the little discussed “Currency Act” of 1764 that made it illegal for the colonies to print their own money. All taxes had to be paid in gold or silver. Since there was little gold or silver in America, the colonists would have to borrow from British bankers. At the time, there was little unemployment in the colonies. After the act unemployment rose. There weren’t enough funds to pay for workers’ services. In Stephen Zarlenga’s “The Lost Science of Money”, he believes this is the real cause of revolution because there now was widespread hunger and poverty and civil unrest. Before this act, Pennsylvania had their own legal tender. It was used to pay for goods and services. She loaned the money and used the interest to pay for things the people needed or re loan it. No more debt to foreign bankers. Ben Franklin loved it for many reasons. The Austrian Libertarian school of economics has tried to discredit Franklin because he was a printer. That’s shameful. Franklin liked it because it worked. No more usury. “Shippers got paid in 6 weeks, not 9 months”. (Stephen Zarlenga’s “The Lost Science of Money”.)

In other words, no taxation at all because the colony used the interest instead. The “lords of trade” in England hated all this and finally got rid of it so colonies would behave like colonies i.e. to be exploited.

This idea continues throughout our history. Jacob Coxey led his army of the unemployed to Washington in 1894 to ask that Congress hire the unemployed. His unique idea was to have the government issue legal tender to hire workers to build roads, schools, libraries etc. 40 years later Roosevelt would try this idea but without printing “greenbacks”. (Coxey actually ran against Roosevelt and claimed that his ideas were used for “the New Deal”). So he lost the election, but part of his ideas found their way into our system.

that is an incredible post and if true it needs it’s own diary with links.

please print that as a diary montanamaven it will be enthralling

let me comment on the following;

Pennsylvania had their own legal tender. It was used to pay for goods and services. She loaned the money and used the interest to pay for things the people needed or re loan it

I have proposed for some time the fact that if we took control of the monetary system from the fed and made it entirely public, we could use “the prime” as a major source of revenue, and a major source for bailouts as well

I have an issue with the following;

In other words, no taxation at all because the colony used the interest instead. The “lords of trade” in England hated all this and finally got rid of it so colonies would behave like colonies i.e. to be exploited.

there must be tariffs to protect your local industry against slave labor abroad, child labor from abroad and products that use unsafe methods pouring cancer into our kids air and bronchitis into our parents lungs

tariffs when done for the proper purpose, to protect local labor=good

as a matter of fact, if a service is requested from constituents of government then that service needs to be earmaked and payed for one way or another and that funding must be made public so we can see of fees are justified or abused

I would call those useage fees instead of taxes but that is for marketing purposes only since they are both the same

anyway, plese write that diary

The Austrian Libertarian school of economics has tried to discredit Franklin

libertarian economics is a fraud at the face, there is no such thing as a free market, it can’t possibly happen, the very concept of a “santity of contracts”, of “ownership” and even the concept of any monetary system at all…all those are sets of regulations

there is not, cannot ever be, never was a “free market”, it’s a ruse and nothing else