Uh, how is the “43.75% arab and 6.25% black” information derived? His father is from Kenya. Kenya is an African nation, made up of black. “Arab” is not a genetic designation that I’ve ever heard of but is rather a cultural designation.

So please identify your sources for this “racial make-up.”

His father is 7/8 arab, Hussien is a name only given to arab men. I undertand Kenya is an African nation, but in the same term how many dutch settlers live in Africa? Would can call them African, but if they were here they would be known as dutch-american. He is actually a descendant of muslim slave traders. Kenneth Lamb is one source, but if you spend any time studying it you would find more then enough sources for yourself.

Adara,

Of the 50% caucasian, what percentage is Aryan?

I ask again, where does this come from? Arab is not a genetic designation, it is a cultural designation.

The Little Lie and How It Grew

Very funny. Look my entire point that you overlook is that Barack Obama would not be the first president to have black ancestors. I think this is actually a pretty unique fact, that can lead to many intersting discussions. Since when is pointing out history bad?

Of course he wouldn’t, since we are all most likely descended from Lucy and her kin. The point is, who cares about this (literally, not pejoratively) racist crap?

He would be the first President who was identified as, and self-identified as Black.

There is plenty of evidence to support this diary HERE

Dakine-

Thanks for tracking down the source of this idiocy!

Racist, girl I’m black as the night. OMG that’s right I’m BLACK woopity-do. The whole popint of my diary here was to discuss a little known fact. I was hoping to target areas like would Lincoln have been elected in those days if his true father was known. Or if today’s media able to find out the last time you took a piss had been around then would thye have even ran for president.

A blog from David Benjamin is no more substansial then what i have written, you just believe it to be true because it is what you want to hear.

Well let’s see, here’s Media Matters on Limbaugh piece of the action.

The Benjamin article seems to have facts backing up his statements, which is more than the Kenneth Lamb assertions seem to have. I’m sure if I had the time, I could find other sites (including media) that also refute this.

But you still have not answered my original question. Why do you conflate something cultural (Arab) with something genetic (skin color)? There are white Arabs and there are black Arabs. Or is it that you decided that hollering Arab! Arab! will scare people?

Adara,

I apologize. You may not be a racist but you are certainly a racialist. (You can look it up.) [BTW, I am not a “girl”!] If you had taken the time to read the Benjamin piece, you would have found that no documentation has been provided by Mr. Lamb, the source of your information.

By your own logic, since most whites have some black ancestors, your assumption of “50% caucasian” through his mother is also untrue. You would have to go back and see how much “black blood” she carries. Then you can take your racialist calculus to the next level.

Wow, interesting to make a political blog the place to discuss the genetic history of the human race(s). Let’s see – the author says “6.25% black”, but “43.75% Arab”. In the “old days”, humans were divided into 3 “races”, Caucasian (white), mongoloid (Asian), and negroid (black or African). But of course, those are very poor descriptions of the variety of humans. If the “out of Africa” theory of human migration is at all correct, those “Arab” or “Persian” folks, often categorized as Caucasian though they are dark-skinned, are the first descendants of the black Africans that left the African continent. And of course you can be African and be of many different racial and country origins – Asian, Indian, Arab, Persian, European, or native African, to name a few.

So, if Barack says he is African-American, which he does, that cannot be disputed – Kenya is in Africa, his father is from Kenya. If his father was described by the Kenyan government as Arab, that can be disputed, as Arab may mean many things, that may have nothing to do with race. I think it is fair to say that Barack looks like a person of significant black racial background – and therefore he was always treated in America as such. And he self-identifies as African-American. Sounds like the end of the story.

For the last time the whole point is whether or not he is the first “true” black president as we define it today. Whether or not some past presidents if they were campaigning today would be considered black. Why is it if you try to discuss Obama and you’re not drooling then it is considered bad. AS for Dakine you have never heard of Arab-American I understand that is a wide group but so isn’t every other group. As far as racialist, I think that is ridiculous. To say I believe in one races superiority to another when talking about history is wrong.

I fully and completely understand Arab-American, Just as I do Irish-American, Mexican-American, Italian-American and so forth. But these are all ethnicities and not racial/genetic characteristics.

Saying someone has “50% White Blood, 43.75% Arab blood, and 6.25% Black blood” is mixing ethnic/cultural distinctions with racial/genetic distinctions.

As far as if any earlier presidents of the US had any “black blood,” none of them self-identified as black. But as has been mentioned, most all of us alive today have ancestory that originated in Africa, so we are all black at the base of our heritage.

Yes and if they had identified themselves as black, would we have had Lincoln. No. And if not Arab then what muslim?

Well by all identifiable racial and genetic characteristics that Obama, his sister, his half brothers, his Kenyan grandmother etc display, they are black so African-American works quite nicely, thank you.

Oh, and where is your information that Lincoln had black ancestors coming from? I hope it is a more credible source than your information from Mr Lamb’s keyboards and imagination.

Joel Augustus Rogers, The Five Negro Presidents; Auset Bakhufu, The Six Black Presidents – Black Blood: White Masks; and Leroy Vaughn, Black People and Their Place in History.

Great sources! They quote opposition press attacks on the Presidents (the press having about as much care for facts as today’s blogs.) Yes, many Americans could find a Black ancestor if the “shook the family tree,” as the saying went.

Apart from political attack dogs, and racialists like yourself, no one cared. They considered themselve “white” and were recognized as such, neither of which is true of Barack Obama.

If it makes you feel better to think that other presidents have been “black,” enjoy! For my part, I am rejoicing that we are going to have an openly black President, despite centuries of oppression.

You’re a racialist, you’re the one “enjoying” an openly black president. That might be the lamest thing I ever heard. Is that why you’re voting for him? If not I would like to hear the reasons, without mention of McCain. If you can. Mabye something he has accomplished?

The concept of race does not exist.

Barack Obama is the first tall, darkly complected president with very curly stiff hair.

Hooray!!

You state that “Hussien is a name only given to arab men”; Wrong. You want to explain that to all of the Husseins in Afghanistan, who happen to be Aryans, not Arabs?
Here is some reading for you-includes reference to Barack’s middle name being from his secular grandfather.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/f…..8/hussein/

Are you confusing Muslim with Arab or Berber?

“There is one past president Harding whose black ancestors make up a larger percentage of blood then Obama’s.”

Link? Books?

Shit. They found the diaries.

Books are already posted.

“All the Birds Come Home to Roost” and “Pretty Maggie Moneyeyes” are excellent works of speculative fiction. Perhaps if this diary were expanded by 25-30,000 words it would also be an excellent piece of speculative fiction. I say fiction, because Barack’s father was a member of the Luo tribe.

The Luo tribe is one of the non-Arabic tribes of Kenya. I did not see anyone discussing Obama’s Luo ancestry here, so I thought I might point it out. That’s something I learned when debunking some of Jerome Corsi’s work 6 months before it was ever published. At least Jerome Corsi put work into his fiction. This diary is… seven sentences long