On Sunday morning, CNN will interview not-President John McCain, as though he were America’s most important sage.
CNN’s State of the Union: “In an exclusive interview this Sunday, John speaks with Senator John McCain, R-Arizona, about the war in Afghanistan, the latest on the health care debate, and much more.”
Are they serious? McCain knows (and cares) even less about health care reform than he admitted knowing or caring about the economy. And one can only imagine what the “much more” refers to.
But it’s a wonder the media are still asking John McCain or his buddies Graham (on NBC’s MTP) or Lieberman (WSJ op-ed with Graham) about Afghanistan. Frank Rich explains why, and delivers a blistering, well-deserved condemnation of the arrogant “sage” who’s been wrong on everything:
Let’s be clear: Those who demanded that America divert its troops and treasure from Afghanistan to Iraq in 2002 and 2003 — when there was no Qaeda presence in Iraq — bear responsibility for the chaos in Afghanistan that ensued. Now they have the nerve to imperiously and tardily demand that America increase its 68,000-strong presence in Afghanistan to clean up their mess . . .
To appreciate this crowd’s spotless record of failure, consider its noisiest standard-bearer, John McCain. He made every wrong judgment call that could be made after 9/11. It’s not just that he echoed the Bush administration’s constant innuendos that Iraq collaborated with Al Qaeda’s attack on America. Or that he hyped the faulty W.M.D. evidence to the hysterical extreme of fingering Iraq for the anthrax attacks in Washington. Or that he promised we would win the Iraq war “easily.” Or that he predicted that the Sunnis and the Shiites would “probably get along” in post-Saddam Iraq because there was “not a history of clashes” between them.
What’s more mortifying still is that McCain was just as wrong about Afghanistan and Pakistan. He routinely minimized or dismissed the growing threats in both countries over the past six years, lest they draw American resources away from his pet crusade in Iraq.
Two years after 9/11 he was claiming that we could “in the long term” somehow “muddle through” in Afghanistan. (He now has the chutzpah to accuse President Obama of wanting to “muddle through” there.) Even after the insurgency accelerated in Afghanistan in 2005, McCain was still bragging about the “remarkable success” of that prematurely abandoned war. In 2007, some 15 months after the Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf signed a phony “truce” ceding territory on the Afghanistan border to terrorists, McCain gave Musharraf a thumb’s up. As a presidential candidate in the summer of 2008, McCain cared so little about Afghanistan it didn’t even merit a mention among the national security planks on his campaign Web site.
He takes no responsibility for any of this. Asked by Katie Couric last week about our failures in Afghanistan, McCain spoke as if he were an innocent bystander: “I think the reason why we didn’t do a better job on Afghanistan is our attention — either rightly or wrongly — was on Iraq.” As Tonto says to the Lone Ranger, “What do you mean ‘we,’ white man?”
All the links are Rich’s, and he isn’t done, proceeding to blister McCain’s two buddies as well.
It is a measure of the silliness of cable/network talking head shows that they think anyone with that record still deserves to be asked his opinion rather than offer a long and humble apology. But read through the guests and panelists from Elliot’s Sunday Talking Heads post; asking silly people who’ve been wrong time and again, and whose errors led to thousands of other people’s deaths, is about 75 percent of what we get on a good Sunday.
“Why, oh, why can’t we have a better media?” — Brad DeLong
Video h/t to Think Progress, Discussion Afghanistan, McCain dodges question on whether we should have invaded Iraq
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Thanks. That’s really right on.
Perhaps they’re interviewing all those folks because if they know that if they advocate something, one of the available alternatives is probably the right course.
Minor correction: “Who’s errors” should be “whose errors.”
[modnote: Fixed, thanks.]
Some thoughts on McCain. Here’s a guy that made it by being an Admirals son, and graduated at the bottom of His class. He lost three of our planes as a pilot, including the one He was shot down in. He broke under torture, and made false confessions for the North Vetnamese. He was offered early release because He was an Admirals son, and refused it because he wouldn’t have been able to face the others if He’d taken it. That may have been the most Admirable thing He has done in His life. Then He made it to Congress where He has been on the public dole for all the years since. Almost His whole life He has been on our payroll, and really done little for it. He is a mouth in the Senate, but not much more than that.
Yet the Media runs to here his every word, which few have much behind them. He showed what an ass he was while running for President, and how good he was at making decisions. After that He went back to the Senate and took his underlying defeat and resentment with Him. He pretended He would work with Obama, but has done everything he could to undercut him.
Here’s a guy that has been milking the public, ran for president while taking his Senate pay check, and His Social Security check, and living high on his rich wife.
The healthcare we supplied Him, even though He could have afforded to pay if He hadn’t had it, is why He is still here. Yet He is willing to vote against healthcare for the people.
We paid for Cheney’s heart attacks, Spector cancer, and all their ailments, but they are willing to vote against healthcare for us.
McCain even considering His service, has done nothing in His life to make Him worth even listening to His oppinions on anything. He has been quite outspoken on the wars as if He knew everything We should do, and when we should do it. He was not a great military mind, General, or has anything to back up His opinions. People like Him are why we have so many problems.
McCain is an ignoramus.
Sunday cablefests love ignorami.
See, also, below:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/10/AR2009101001346.html
Now the ‘Loyal Opposition,’ McCain Keeps Pressure on Obama by Dan Balz.
Sigh.
I sure would like to see Frank Rich’s construction “Wrong Way McCain” catch on. Let’s start today, shall we?
Dude, the Villagers LOVE them some McSame. He does a mean “Q” and has a tire swing. Why are you surprised? Obama has never cooked for them, and there’s no Obama-swing for them to ride around on.
frank rich’s column today at nytimes is an excellent read. once again those like mccain, his neocon buds and the gop are hoping the american people are deaf, dumb and blind with very short memories. the msm, cable punditry are just thrilled to be inside the beltway echo chamber. they too have lost all credibility.
At least McCain was right about the fundamentals of our economy being strong!
Oh, wait…
(When you really think about it, he’s never been right about anything. That’s why he clings so desperately to the “success” of The Surge, even though it’s met few of its metrics and the jury is still, um, out.)
John King is pretty clearly bowled over by the McCain intellect, which tells you all you really need to know about John King. He starts out saying “Many see the parallel to Iraq…” but never makes that point. What is the parallel to Iraq? Or does he, perhaps, mean a contrast to Iraq?
“Many see the parallel to Iraq…”
platitudes re latitudes –
both the 30th and 35th parallels pass through both Iraq and Afghanistan! How crazy is that?
Baghdad 33.21N
Kabul 34.31N
It reminds me of the way that President Kerry and President Gore were on the shows all the time during the reign of President Bush. Good times, good times.
And thats why Media stocks suck?
Which reminds me, isn’t it time for Darth to come roaring out of his spiderhole about now?
He’s letting his wacko daughter take the stage but he’ll be back, I’m sure.
How can it be called an “exclusive interview” if McCain is on one or more shows every weekend. Its like Entertainment Tonight or Extra claiming a Kardashian or Gosselin exclusive.
yeah, they really wore out the airwaves, huh?
It’s the dumb balance thing that they take any issue and feel that they need to give the other side, even if the other side’s ideas are batsh8t crazy like creationism or whatever they call it these days.
When someone has been wrong a number of times on big issues, you should never go back to them again as some sort of wise all knowing savant. McCain is in idiot, proven again and again.
Naw he sent his daughter Barf Vader
It should be more than evident judging by the 8 years bush was in office that the republics are wrong about absolutely everything. IMO the talking heads who still entertain people like McCrazy are preaching to the choir.
For those with the time to read it, Sean Naylor’s Not a Good Day to Die
is a good way to see how Donald Rumsfeld’s micromanaging and the diversion
of resources for the impending attack on Iraq were already
snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in the spring of 2002.
If the Media wants to present the GOP side and we know they do then who is to say that John McCain is not now the defacto highest attention getting GOPer out there?
Who else besides McCain can speak the official GOP line on any issue? The GOP Senate and House leadership have had poll numbers around the 20’s for months.
There press agents probably said hiding under a rock until Obama mania blows over is your best bet.
I agree John is wrong about everything but so are all the other GOPers.
The power of the memory hole is a great power, indeed, and McCain has as much invested in it as the fawning media that still books him. Sad, but true. I thought it would be different now, chump that I am, but it seems that the band plays on.
It drove me crazy! Gore, Gore, Gore. Kerry, Kerry, Kerry. And they were always letting them spout their ridiculous sound bites and NO ONE would correct them! Thank god that peacenik Charles Krauthammer stopped agreeing with them and started standing up for war or we would have never had a chance to bring democracy to Iraq.
You know what, I’m sick of the peace industrial complex ramming peace down our throats. It’s almost like the only people hiring people any more at the big 8 Peace firms. It’s really sick that we constantly have to fundraise to buy weapons of mass destruction. Just last week someone from one of the big 8 Peace firms was caught misusing 900 million tax dollars! I think it was Greenpeace. What a waste! And what do we have to show for it? Where’s the peace? If these people worked for a business they would be fired!
Okay. Let’s start: Dear David Gregory/George Stephanopoulos/CNN(whoever-I don’t watch)–
when the hell are you gonna stop subjecting us to WrongWay McCain? When will you bring on somebody who was right about the war/torture/economy/environment/etc.?
WRONG WAY McCAIN!
Frank Rich is consistently good, but today’s is a barn-burner!
Mr. McCan’t is the last man to ask for so many reasons. He was born under a socialized medical plan (the US Navy’s cradle to grave coverage) that his father and grandfather, both admirals, lived with, too. Ditto for their pensions. Mr. McCan’t has permanent partial disability, owing to his war wounds, and receives lifetime coverage and disability payments for them.
He is a sitting United States Senator and receives full coverage through it, for $502/year – less than half the monthly cost for a family plan with lots of holes in it. There’s even a Navy hospital in the basement of the Capitol Hill complex, serving both houses of Congress and the Supreme Court, for immediate treatment of bunions, heart attacks, stomach gas attacks, strokes, and treatment for STD’s. Congressional medical and pension benefits are lifetime and permanent.
Mr. McCan’t’s wife has a fortune estimated at $100 million. The couple could buy the wing of a hospital if need be, or pay cash for treatment anywhere in the world, should it be needed on a no-name or “John Doe” basis. That might be for anything from botox treatment to HIV testing.
He’s a conservative from a conservative state, with a poor record for treating its poor and minorities and average citizens. It has an even poorer record for financial management. Arizona put its state house building up for sale – on what appears to be a sweetheart deal for the buyer – rather than ask its citizens for adequate tax revenues.
As is true in Texas and Florida, which have no state income tax, the wealthy in Arizona can pay cash for whatever they need, which they interpret to mean that the state therefore needn’t organize services for the 99% of its citizens who are not so financially fortunate.
Asking Sen. John McCan’t his view on health care reform is like asking the CEO of Disney if US copyrights and trademarks should have a much shorter lifespan. His only possible answer is “No! Things are just fine the way they are”. That’s not news – and its not leadership.
Wrong Way McCain. (per Frank Rich).
What a perfect nickname for Sen. John McCain…as well as the rest of the Republican Party…and even a few Blue Dog Democrats.
Where there is a right way, a common sense way, a sane way, McCain, the Republicans and the Blue Dogs will always choose the wrong way, the illogical way, the costly-to-our-country way.
But you see, McCain, the Republicans and the Blue Dogs are part of the corporate protection racket in Washington and on Wall Street, a racket that runs Congress to a large extent, the White House (whoever is in it), the Supreme Court, the news media, the privatized part of the U.S. military, with corporate protection racketeers putting profits over people and the well-being of our country all the time.
Consumer protection? HA!!, say the corporate protection racketeers. Consumer protection laws would get in the way of corporations making a profit, just as an outbreak of peace (or Nobel Peace Prizes) would get in the way of war profiteers making a profit.
And Wrong Way McCain is part of this culture of corporate corruption that profits at the expense of all other U.S. citizens, American workers, the ill and U.S. soldiers alike, which is why he keeps being asked by corporate executives in the “liberal” news media to appear so often on talking head shows, as do so many other Wrong Way Republicans and Wrong Way Blue Dogs.
There’s a right way and a wrong way, and the Wrong Way Republicans stopped being right a long time ago when they decided to sell out our country for thirty pieces of silver.
He was at the bottom of his class, his dad and grampa were admirals, he crashed planes. Holy shit if people had known that . . .
LOL
I would really like to see Johnny “Come Lately” McCain shuffle off to Arizona. I think its time for him to exit the political stage once and for all. With all the intelligent voices to be heard why do the networks continue to dish up the same stale left-overs every Sunday? So boring.
McCain has never been right about anything…ever! When he pops up on my TV screen I change channels. The day he is ready to explain why he unleashed Pit Bull Palin onto the political scene will be the one and only day I will listen to him.
There are several parallels to Iraq and Afghanistan.
1. We shouldn’t have been there, unless we did the job we went in for and got out.
2. They are costing our brave brothers and sisters lives for almost nothing.
3. Both wars have cost us way to much in our taxpayers dollars, for Nation Building.
4. We have been in both to long, not because of terrorists, but because of our Militaries failures to handle both wars.
5. Wanting to win to cover the butts of generals and politicians, is not a good excuse for one of our mens lives, or one of our dollars.
6. Neither Country is worth what we have spent on them. Iraq could fall apart the day we leave, and Afghanistan may never get together to fall apart.
For those who may have forgotten, or never known, about the dust-up between John King and Glenn Greenwald — it’s a classic.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/01/16/king/